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The Doctor’s War
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To all...
First off, if I knew that my little post would generate so much controversy I would never posted. But, since I did, and after all this said, I feel I need to make my intentions clear.
I posted that article to show selfless behavior of that medic that fight the triage doctor on the door, standing up for his patient against rules that says one's life is more important than others... It is great thing what that medic did, and it is good decision of triage doctor who let that second kid in. Isn't' that what we should do in EMS? Provide the care and fight for our patients?
Withholding the medical assistance in case of "what can be" is morally repugnant... There is obligation of one who is invading one's country that he needs to own it all responsibilities and provide help when needed. If I am not mistaken, that is core of what US military used to do always... Provide the medical help to the enemy on the battlefield once battle is over?
We can talk more about politics and stupid decisions and lies that put American son's and daughter's in harm's way in place they should never be, or reasons why are so much billions spent for phony wars while EMS services, Medicare and social security get's cut and denied here, but like one member said before, that is NOT topic for EMS forum. War and killings is antithesis of EMS and saving life, right?
My intentions with this post was to honor that brave medic and doctor for fighting the establishment and helping those in need, and to honor all of you here who are doing that every day on regular basis.
First off, if I knew that my little post would generate so much controversy I would never posted. But, since I did, and after all this said, I feel I need to make my intentions clear.
I posted that article to show selfless behavior of that medic that fight the triage doctor on the door, standing up for his patient against rules that says one's life is more important than others... It is great thing what that medic did, and it is good decision of triage doctor who let that second kid in. Isn't' that what we should do in EMS? Provide the care and fight for our patients?
Withholding the medical assistance in case of "what can be" is morally repugnant... There is obligation of one who is invading one's country that he needs to own it all responsibilities and provide help when needed. If I am not mistaken, that is core of what US military used to do always... Provide the medical help to the enemy on the battlefield once battle is over?
We can talk more about politics and stupid decisions and lies that put American son's and daughter's in harm's way in place they should never be, or reasons why are so much billions spent for phony wars while EMS services, Medicare and social security get's cut and denied here, but like one member said before, that is NOT topic for EMS forum. War and killings is antithesis of EMS and saving life, right?
My intentions with this post was to honor that brave medic and doctor for fighting the establishment and helping those in need, and to honor all of you here who are doing that every day on regular basis.
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No, good deal. THis discussion shouldn't be limited to warriors and pacifists per se.
I wish we had more direct responses from our Iraeli, Palestinian, Sudanese, etc. counterparts. I had the fortune of of talking to one of my professors who was an ambulance driver in London during The Blitz, and one of my clinical instructors was an Army nurse at Pleiku, Vietnam, as well as the folks I encountered before and after trying once to learn my trade as a potential combat medical person, then later just learning more about "the human condition". They had to deal not only with the nightmare we all carry of being overwhelmed, but also the feelings of helplessness and futility when one is swept up into (or run over by) conflicts as big as these.
The U.S. walked on water during WWII because press access was controled and national censorship was in place. However, we did make government and private overtures to help get Germany and Japan back on thier feet.
Read Kaplan's book, The Dressing Station.
Read Kurt Vonnegut's essays.
I wish we had more direct responses from our Iraeli, Palestinian, Sudanese, etc. counterparts. I had the fortune of of talking to one of my professors who was an ambulance driver in London during The Blitz, and one of my clinical instructors was an Army nurse at Pleiku, Vietnam, as well as the folks I encountered before and after trying once to learn my trade as a potential combat medical person, then later just learning more about "the human condition". They had to deal not only with the nightmare we all carry of being overwhelmed, but also the feelings of helplessness and futility when one is swept up into (or run over by) conflicts as big as these.
The U.S. walked on water during WWII because press access was controled and national censorship was in place. However, we did make government and private overtures to help get Germany and Japan back on thier feet.
Read Kaplan's book, The Dressing Station.
Read Kurt Vonnegut's essays.
Put me firmly in the warrior column.
2 years into the iraq war I was approached by an antiwar group to give a presentation on the health affects of war.
Prior to accepting I informed them there were positive aspects of war on medicine and therefore healthcare in general, and they still paid me to come.
It is important to note that while my politics of war is that we should win and that is not possible in our current conflicts with our current political process, the fact remains that even if individuals get turned away for care from trauma related to the weaponry, the destruction of the environment making it uninhabitable, or the diseases from the aftermath, Healthcare and other projects being given in conflict zones to the indiginous populations is considerably better than the healthcare available to Americans with even greater economic status, and the public works are greater than has been done in the US in 60+ years.
You hardly ever see in the news when some po dunk hospital kills somebody from their lack of knowledge, resources, or capabillity. When you do, it is a statement on how far they have come from being nothing.
Objective journalism is gone. If a story cannot be made sensational, then it is not told.
Since we cannot win, the only question is how much will we lose? The recent conflicts are the epitomy of a bleeding investment.
2 years into the iraq war I was approached by an antiwar group to give a presentation on the health affects of war.
Prior to accepting I informed them there were positive aspects of war on medicine and therefore healthcare in general, and they still paid me to come.
It is important to note that while my politics of war is that we should win and that is not possible in our current conflicts with our current political process, the fact remains that even if individuals get turned away for care from trauma related to the weaponry, the destruction of the environment making it uninhabitable, or the diseases from the aftermath, Healthcare and other projects being given in conflict zones to the indiginous populations is considerably better than the healthcare available to Americans with even greater economic status, and the public works are greater than has been done in the US in 60+ years.
You hardly ever see in the news when some po dunk hospital kills somebody from their lack of knowledge, resources, or capabillity. When you do, it is a statement on how far they have come from being nothing.
Objective journalism is gone. If a story cannot be made sensational, then it is not told.
Since we cannot win, the only question is how much will we lose? The recent conflicts are the epitomy of a bleeding investment.
mycrofft
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I think Kate Gosselin should be a combat nurse then.
Remember the publicity when Natasha Richardson succumbed to a hidden intracranial bleed?
Back a step: someof the munitions the French are unearthing are from the Franco-Prussian War, and WWI (the latter can include mustard agents, phosgene).
Remember the publicity when Natasha Richardson succumbed to a hidden intracranial bleed?
Back a step: someof the munitions the French are unearthing are from the Franco-Prussian War, and WWI (the latter can include mustard agents, phosgene).
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