Okay so i'm an EMT out here in Utah at Utah Valley University, and the Ballroom Dance team ask me as a trained EMT to be the Medical Adviser for the Team and they travel to England. Anyone have idea on the stuff i need to get? ie Forms, Waivers, Physicals? And cost for this kind of thing, like volunteer or what? any help at all would be nice.
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Are they offering to fly you out there? The responsibility thing is a valid point, the big question would also be whose medical license would you be working under (though once you are overseas you can't officially practice as an EMT, you'd be more of a first responder providing care until the local rescue service arrives.)
That being said it's not like it's a SWAT team or pro football team. Seems to me pretty low probability of a ballroom dancing team having a serious injury. Easiest thing would be to run it though the university, they should have pretty standard forms for physicals, waivers etc. And if the team is willing to put in writing that they understand you are not a doctor, would only be providing stabilizing care etc etc etc might not be a bad deal.
That being said it's not like it's a SWAT team or pro football team. Seems to me pretty low probability of a ballroom dancing team having a serious injury. Easiest thing would be to run it though the university, they should have pretty standard forms for physicals, waivers etc. And if the team is willing to put in writing that they understand you are not a doctor, would only be providing stabilizing care etc etc etc might not be a bad deal.
Remember in the UK you also have no jurisdiction whatsoever as you are not registered with the Health Professions Council.
Do you have any knowledge of aviation medicine, infectious diseases, public health, immunisations etc? ..... as Venificus said, don't.
Also a "medical advisor" implies a physician, just tell them to go see thier GP.
Do you have any knowledge of aviation medicine, infectious diseases, public health, immunisations etc? ..... as Venificus said, don't.
Also a "medical advisor" implies a physician, just tell them to go see thier GP.
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If you're getting a free trip, DO!
Earn your keep by familiarizing yourself with how to use Emergency Services in each city, and be there if they need you. The best you can do is be an advocate; I think that's what they're asking you to do. But I don't even think you know what they want from you. So have them put it in writing, and THEN ask us what you need to know.
Earn your keep by familiarizing yourself with how to use Emergency Services in each city, and be there if they need you. The best you can do is be an advocate; I think that's what they're asking you to do. But I don't even think you know what they want from you. So have them put it in writing, and THEN ask us what you need to know.
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I have no problems doing so. Just call 999 when in the UK.
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Get yourt MD first
And yes there is no reciprocity, over there you are "just Johnny".
And yes there is no reciprocity, over there you are "just Johnny".
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Hey, i don't think thats a title over there. Its "just Nigel" over there.
In terms of probability the chance for injury is lower than but still ever present. Perhaps the most severe injuries can be found being dropped from a lift, however, Achillies tendon (posterior tibial tendon) ruptures (a common dance injury) can be debilitating for life.
What it seems like they might ask of you being a team "medical" person would be for a dancer (read athlete) to come to you with an ache or pain and ask if it is ok to continue or what to do so they can continue. That type of assessment is beyond the ability of an EMT.
from years of training and practice there can be all kinds of underlying orthopedic afflictions. Not to mention improperly trained dancers are quite prone to injuries. There are also injuries specific to different types of dancers. (especially jazz)
You would not take an EMT to be the team medical person of an ice-skater or gymnast, a dancer is along the same lines.
As for permission slips, etc. Most athletes require quite specialized physicals. It is easy to dismiss a dancer as just somebody jumping around to music having a good time. Most Ballet companies have thier own specialized physicians that travel with them. Like with all endeavors, it is not the pros you have to be extra careful with, it is the amateurs.
If somebody is paying for your trip, there is no harm in saying "don't move while I call 999" though.
If you don't consider injuries to the spine and subdurals as serious than I guess not.
An EMT has little to no training in any type of preventive medicine or sports (yes ballroom dancing is almost as physical if not more than some sport) medicine to advise when some should take it easy or work through the pain. You seriously wouldn't want to be responsible for a ripped achilles tendons or spinal injury resulting from an pain that may seem minor to you but can be disabling to the person.
An EMT is also not an independent practitioner
An EMT is also in no position to be giving out medical advice based on a 110 hour first aid course.
It is possible for a few health care practitioners to work under a physician's license while in other countries depending on how the country or state of orgin is worded and where their base is. However, I would not advise this for an EMT.
The team can put anything they want in writing but the EMT is the one who should know the limitations of their license or certification.