Regulations banning smoking in BLS Ambulances

sorry, but the wheels just fell off of your argument. my clothing will not give you cancer. it may carry a smell thats unpleasant to you, but tough cookies. you want to ban the smell of smoke, be prepared for my retaliation. i will take issue with your shampoo, laundry detergent, deodorant, mouthwash, perfume/cologne, food, and anything else you plan to make use of that has an odor. and remember, you opened the door to banning olifactory offenses.

you have no right to to impose your medical problems on my existence. if you have a problem, it is up to you and you alone to deal with that problem.
 
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KEVD18 said:
sorry, but the wheels just fell off of your argument. my clothing will not give you cancer. it may carry a smell thats unpleasant to you, but tough cookies. you want to ban the smell of smoke, be prepared for my retaliation. i will take issue with your shampoo, laundry detergent, deodorant, mouthwash, perfume/cologne, food, and anything else you plan to make use of that has an odor. and remember, you opened the door to banning olifactory offenses.
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Spoken like a true blue, bitter addict.

I would love it if you would. I would stop showing, brushing my teeth, washing my clothes, and only go to restraunts that you would approve of.

Its not just olfactory senses, cigarette smoke is a KNOWN carcinogen, like diesel smoke.

If you can't not smoke for your shift, you need help. I'm quite sure the EAP would be able to assist you in finding help kicking the habit.
 
BLSBoy said:
Spoken like a true blue, bitter addict.

I would love it if you would. I would stop showing, brushing my teeth, washing my clothes, and only go to restraunts that you would approve of.

Its not just olfactory senses, cigarette smoke is a KNOWN carcinogen, like diesel smoke.

If you can't not smoke for your shift, you need help. I'm quite sure the EAP would be able to assist you in finding help kicking the habit.
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yes, inhaling cigarette smoke has been linked to cancer. but it isnt the odor sir, its the particulate matter suspended in the air. the smell has no health properties what soever. if you're not actually inhaling the smoke, you're not getting the carcinogens.

if you were to stop showering, brushing your teeth and washing your clothes; you would then be a public health hazard and could easily be dismissed. then, we could all go back to smoking.

of course im an addict. ive been smokign a pack a day for almost 10 years. i dont need help quiting, as i have no interest in doing so. thats irrelevant. what is relevant is that your personal medical problems are not my problem.
 
Then why do we bother to wash our bunker gear every 6 months, and after every structure fire?
There is no smoke left, but the residue that the smoke leaves behind is methyl ethyl bad stuff. For structure, car, brush fires or cig smoke.

You truely are a bitter individual when it comes to this. If you can not face the fact that you have a disguisting habit, one that produces such odors that offend your coworkers, and could cause adverse affects for them or your patients, then you are either ignorant, or arrogant.

Most workplaces have something written into the rules saying something along the lines of it shall be an area free of offensive odors and/or material. Usually within reason. Most people wear conservative cologne, and will avoid eating certain food when people who are allergic to it are around (eg seafood, peanuts, etc)

Suck it up buttercup, this is the 21st century, its so passe to smoke now.
 
BLSBoy said:
Then why do we bother to wash our bunker gear every 6 months, and after every structure fire?
There is no smoke left, but the residue that the smoke leaves behind is methyl ethyl bad stuff. For structure, car, brush fires or cig smoke.

You truely are a bitter individual when it comes to this. If you can not face the fact that you have a disguisting habit, one that produces such odors that offend your coworkers, and could cause adverse affects for them or your patients, then you are either ignorant, or arrogant.

Most workplaces have something written into the rules saying something along the lines of it shall be an area free of offensive odors and/or material. Usually within reason. Most people wear conservative cologne, and will avoid eating certain food when people who are allergic to it are around (eg seafood, peanuts, etc)

Suck it up buttercup, this is the 21st century, its so passe to smoke now.
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you wash your bunkers after every fire? wow.

im not bitter at all. i just hate self entitled whiners. you think its all about you. you think because you have asthma, nobody should smoke in the same state or withing 12hrs of being in your presence. bottom line, you want the entire world to conform to you and i think that attitude is disgusting.

free of offensive odors? where do you come up with this crap? passe to smoke? try that argument in virginia.

you're pathetic becuase you think you can impose your will on everybody else. i would have paid your wages for the short time you were there to have you try this argument at one of the companies i have worked for. we figured it out one day. 96% of the people in that house smoked. we smoked everywhere. the house, the bay, the trucks, everywhere. it would have been hillarious to have you try to convert all of us.

give it a rest. your an anti smoker. we get it. your opinion has been noted and ignored.
 
KEVD18 said:
yes, inhaling cigarette smoke has been linked to cancer. but it isnt the odor sir, its the particulate matter suspended in the air. the smell has no health properties what soever. if you're not actually inhaling the smoke, you're not getting the carcinogens.
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You are correct there but at least people exposed to carcinogens may have time on their side in some cases.

However, people, including your patients, who have any form of reactive airway disease may not be so lucky. These people may have gone out of their way to avoid odors that will trigger their reactions only to find the person who is supposed to help them is actually going to do them the most harm.
 
Hastings said:
How absurd.

Just get out of the ambulance, walk a few feet away, and smoke in whatever parking lot you're parked in.

Shouldn't be smoking in an ambulance for a million different reasons.
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Agreed

I actually fail to see how there is any question concerning this matter, or why there would need to be any regulations prohibiting it... common sense ought to prevail here.

Healthcare setting... smoking... hmmmm :unsure:

I guess you have ignorant ***** no matter where you go. Reminds me of many ER nights, as patients/visitors would stand right in front of the Emergency main entrance puffing away... with the "No Smoking" sign right next to them.
 
i dont take issue with walking a few feet from the bus to smoke, or going outside the house. thats not a problem. its inconvienent, but the cost of doing business in todays world.

but mr self entitled wants smokers to give up their habit entirely for the entire shift with him, which is unreasonable and laughable.
 
Alright, take 5.

This debate is really going no where but in circles.

People smoke, people wear cologne. Both are offensive to some people, both cause allergic reactions to some people. Be respectful for your patients. When I go to work, I make sure my uniform isn't stinky, and I put on some deodorant. No cologne. If you smoke, fine.. we wont hold that against you, after all who are we to judge? But maybe put on a jacket (if you live somewhere cold, or cool) when you go outside, stand so the wind blows the smoke away from your direction and not into you.
If you wear cologne than don't overdo it. Put on some to smell pretty for your dying pts and other than that leave it alone.

Would I be annoyed if I couldn't breathe and then I have a medic who reeks of smoke or cologne comes and sits right beside me. Of course I would.

I'm not against smoking, or smelling good.. but there has to be some sort of respect for the patients. And I'm not saying anyone in here doesn't have that.. but put yourself in their shoes for a minute. Again, not saying you don't.

I'm not against anyone here, I know a lot of dang good medics who smoke, and a lot of dang good medics who smell good (lol..) but I have heard patients comment on their strong smell a few times. And a few patients who actually wanted to switch medics because their C/C was SOB, and the medics smell was too strong for them.
 
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