Oakland Community College (MI) Paramedic school

Chuckles said:
Also, as a medic my medic class was never taught our drugs at all. Where they in the book yes but as far as having a drug test on classification, dosage, ex... never taught.
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That's rather scary...
 
Chuckles said:
Also, as a medic my medic class was never taught our drugs at all. Where they in the book yes but as far as having a drug test on classification, dosage, ex... never taught.
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And this is the reason the NREMT is going to a policy of only allowing students who graduated from an accredited school sit for the NREMT exams. Accountability and standardization of education.
 
yeah well the scary part is Michigan Academy is in the process of getting Accreditied.
 
HFCC is good too. It's in Wayne county though in Dearborn. There are no classes for I's. Just a 3 semester program for P.
 
Chuckles said:
yeah well the scary part is Michigan Academy is in the process of getting Accreditied.
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"in the process" does not mean its going to happen. if it does, I would be curious to know WHO exactly accredited them....if it was "Jo bob's commission on accrediting the Michigan Academy"... then I might be able to see that...:rolleyes:
 
FLEMTP said:
Make that 6 people.. I used to live in Clawson. OCC has an excellent program.. it is academy style, so it is disciplined and they have very clear expectations. They also have a mock city on the campus they do training on, not only just within your class, but they will do massive training sessions with the fire and LEO students too. One of my good friends attended the EMT-basic and intermediate academies in 2003/2004. I was very impressed with the instructors and with the level of education they imparted in him. They expect a lot from their students, but thats a good thing when you're learning how to possibly save another person's life.

About HVA:

I attended HVA's program in Ann Arbor back in 2002... it was a hands down amazing program. I got a top notch education, and was able to do pretty much ALL of my internship time through University of Michigan Medical Center... obviously one of the nations best teaching hospitals. There, if your ID says student.. and you have the knowledge, they will practically let you do ANYTHING. I was allowed to scrub in on a liver transplant while doing my OR rotations... i was allowed to intubate multiple pediatric cases, got plenty of LMA placement experience, and experience with RSI/DAI medications. I was allowed to place ( yes, place) a chest tube, an epidural, and was allowed to deliver 4 children. (nurse midwife standing behind supervising)
Many of our classes were taught by physicians, one being a research cardiologist from Pfizer, another being an Emergency Medicine Resident from UMMC, who was also a street paramedic in NYC. Our intubation/airway class was taught by the medical director from Washtenaw/Livingston County Medical control authority... just to name a few. All very very competent, and very easy to talk to. You get every dime of your money's worth, and then some.

I do want to put out this disclaimer.. my experience was with HVA back when I took my paramedic program in 2002-2003. I would encourage you to ask around and find out how they are doing now.. things can always change.. but if I know HVA.. they keep themselves held to a pretty high standard!

it was an amazing experience... and if I could go through the program again I would .. just for the clinical experience alone. HVA is a top notch very professional agency and is well respected.

The michigan academy I have not heard much about, but what I have heard was not very positive.

LSTI (when I was living in MI 4+ years ago) was the joke of EMS education...and was literally a medic mill.

Hope this is a help.. any other questions I can answer please feel free to PM me!
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OHHHHH, How Things Do Change! HVA is being phased out of SCC as their current courses end. The college is going solo. Let's just say, not all that glitters has been gold for the last few years. There are some good and some bad points however, when too many issues crop up, it is time for a change.

PS: I went through the HVA program at the main back in the mid 90's and had an excellent educational experience. Very similar to the above. Those attending the main campus did get a few hands on clinical experiences HVA did not extend to the college students but, the class itself was the same as at the college.
 
Chuckles said:
Michigan Academy of Emergency Services I went there for both Basic and Medic. Their Basic class is really good. Their Medic class not too much. Went there 2007-2008 and intead of having one intructor for the whole class you will have different ones each week.

For example week one you will have Joe Smoh week 2 you will have Joh Doe wekk three you will have Jane doe week four you will have Joe Smoh again. Each time each instructor has no idea none what so ever what was covered the previous week. Which will cause massive confusion on the instructor part.

Also, as a medic my medic class was never taught our drugs at all. Where they in the book yes but as far as having a drug test on classification, dosage, ex... never taught.
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Having several different I/C's is a good idea really. No single I/C can be great at lecturing in every single subject. The problems arise when educators don't work together and communicate. I like having more than one lecturer available. It gives students with different learning styles more variety of teaching styles which generally improves cognition.

In a slightly different direction; I have yet to understand why collectively, students do not utilize the state forms to make their concerns known when following traditional greivance procedures have not worked. If there is a legitimate complaint affects the tuition paying student body as a whole, students really need to stand up and be heard.
 
FLEMTP said:
And this is the reason the NREMT is going to a policy of only allowing students who graduated from an accredited school sit for the NREMT exams. Accountability and standardization of education.
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Michigan is not using NR as of sometime this year. No final date has been set but the decision has been made. In reality I'd expect more like early 2011.

Accreditation has not proven to be as safe a bet (to assure quality) as was hoped but, many colleges are still seeking to become accredited within the next couple of years. I'm thinking by 2013, most colleges will be. Right now, HVA and programs, LCC and KVCC are the only accredited Paramedic programs in MI. I know of a few more in the process.
 
wow.. its crazy how much things change in just 4 short years.. I keep my MI paramedic license current.. but thats about it. Ive been home twice in 4 years.. and I dont really talk shop with people when im home.. mostly go home just to relax!
 
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