New Air EMS Company

Don't. Feed. The "surgeon" Troll.

Star Air Flight (Hmmm similar to STARFlight huh), prove me wrong. I would be very careful who you're "bashing" as they are indeed very respected people in the air medical industry in Texas.

Also, going to an online forum isn't the way most people start a multimillion dollar healthcare venture.

If you're really a "surgeon" could you pass along a website/anything with your name on it and your hospital proving it's you?

If so, the few of us on here who are actively involved in CCT/Flight will be glad to help you.
 
medicRob said:
Our service just recently went from the Bell 412 air frame to the utilization of two choppers, the EC-135 P2+ with single pilot instrumentation flight certification, enhanced ground proximity warning systems, Air traffic advisory systems, Weather Radar, XM Satellite weather, and 3 axis Autopilot which we use as our primary and the BH 407, which is equipped with a state of the art Terrain avoidance system. moving map display, and is fully equipped for night vision.

I used to love the BH412 because I could have a patient on each side of me and the side loading abilities, in my humble opinion were better than the rear-loading rotor-wings like the EC135 because they didn't involve having to enter the danger zone of the chopper (The Rear rotor). It kind of broke my heart to see the 412 retired, she was a great air craft. When we would hook up our headsets, and hear the little siren sound as the rotors started.. well let's just say, I miss her.

Starlife, I forgot to ask you in my last post if you have planned for the training costs associated with certifying your crew in night vision training, and keeping them current with ACLS, PALS, etc.

Also, how are you addressing specialty certifications like FP-C or CFRN? Will you be requiring your Nurse and Paramedic (btw, RN/RN config will not work, an RN who is an EMT on the flight will work, but not just RN/RN) to have FP-C (In the Paramedic's Case) or CFRN/CCRN (In the RN's case) within a certain time of employment? Also, will you be paying for them to get these certifications and to keep them current?

I assume you have some kind of agreement with a surgeon at the receiving medical center that will take on the responsibility of training the air crew in some of the more advanced skills that air medical providers can perform.

Which business model did you model your plan after? Care to share?
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There is a company not to far away that are not using the Heli as much as we need it which is the Bell 430 with the following EMS features: EMS Modifications, Left and Right Hand Attendant Seat, Rear Bench Seat Modification, Medical Flooring with Fluid Dam, Oxygen Storage, Secondary Medical Panel & Equipment Bar, IV Hooks (4), High Intensity Cabin Lighting, Secondary Medical Patient Restraint, Modular Medical Cabinet, Air Methods Patient Loading System, Shore Power Panel.

We are debating weather to lease company or start ourselves from scratch. I am interested in the EC 135p2+ with IFR capabilities, Satellite tracked Night Vision Goggles, Advanced medical equipment including LP-12 monitors, LV1000 ventilators, IV infusion pumps, advanced drug supply and Intra Aortic Balloon Pump,Two units of blood and all the other goodies. There is a great opportunity in Dallas with a brand new one that will give us the specs we want as well as a full VIP config. I will check with the County reguarding the training thanks.


We currently have two Flight RNs that are excited for the job, as well as access to paramedics, great question about the training and for this I will bring it up to the County Hospital that is backing us up and see if they are willing to fund us the training to qualify the crew we need. I am pilot myself, and have a guy up in Dallas that is very familiar with the EC and just got laid off and is willing to lend hands.

The medical center(s) that are receiving the current HEMS have an agreement with both the county hospital and the private medical center that we have and if we move forward on this the agreement would continue except we would be using our own heli.

Our business plan is still in development gathering ideas, references etc. once we get everything we think we need, we will then pursue this with a proper organization that deals with setting up these type of service. We have the local city and surrounding counties including several Physicians that want to either invest or be a part of this dream.

Great info MedicRob thank you!
 
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Ectopy said:
Don't. Feed. The "surgeon" Troll.

Star Air Flight (Hmmm similar to STARFlight huh), prove me wrong. I would be very careful who you're "bashing" as they are indeed very respected people in the air medical industry in Texas.

Also, going to an online forum isn't the way most people start a multimillion dollar healthcare venture.

If you're really a "surgeon" could you pass along a website/anything with your name on it and your hospital proving it's you?

If so, the few of us on here who are actively involved in CCT/Flight will be glad to help you.
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I came to this Forum to get first hand knowledge from active EMS Flight personnel, I will be gladly to release my info once we move forward. In the mean time I will continue to be Dr. Troll to you.

Thanks for your help........
 
Why do you need a IABP when you are transporting from a county hospital with no trauma services?
 
What area are you located in? Just wondering...

I was born and raised in Fort Worth, worked as a ground medic in the metroplex for 5 years and then flew with CMC Dallas doing CCT transports, fixed and rotor, throughout the country, and Western hemisphere.

Anyway...the aeromed community is small and tight knit, so I am trying to figure what part of the HUGE lone star state you are in...
 
I feel like successfully starting up in any industry requires a certain level of experience and expertise in that industry. This not only provides knowledge and understanding necessary to know what's required, but networking to find and recruit like-minded individuals with varying backgrounds to fill in their weak spots and build a successful team. It seems self-evident to me that if one is compelled to turn to an anonymous forum as a resource than they are either lacking either expertise, experience or both.

To the OP, I don't know you or your background. I have no experience in HEMS and frankly limited experience in EMS in general. I do have some advice though. If you want to make a go of any business and you don't have the expertise to answer all the questions and problems you come across, go find the best people you can to partner with and compensate them well. Any help you get online will at best be of limited utility.
 
WolfmanHarris said:
I feel like successfully starting up in any industry requires a certain level of experience and expertise in that industry. This not only provides knowledge and understanding necessary to know what's required, but networking to find and recruit like-minded individuals with varying backgrounds to fill in their weak spots and build a successful team. It seems self-evident to me that if one is compelled to turn to an anonymous forum as a resource than they are either lacking either expertise, experience or both.

To the OP, I don't know you or your background. I have no experience in HEMS and frankly limited experience in EMS in general. I do have some advice though. If you want to make a go of any business and you don't have the expertise to answer all the questions and problems you come across, go find the best people you can to partner with and compensate them well. Any help you get online will at best be of limited utility.
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Not to take this offtopic but it's possible to start a business that you have little experience in. I started EMS company without ever working in one or knowing anyone that worked in one. Granted i had 10 years experience in NEMT but still it's totally different animal. So OP could get this to work but he needs to make sure he got enough money to hold on till revenue starts to come in.
 
What's with the hostility.

There is tons of information on this forum sometimes you just need a shovel and some boots to find it.

Good luck with your business.
 
CAOX3 said:
What's with the hostility.

There is tons of information on this forum sometimes you just need a shovel and some boots to find it.

Good luck with your business.
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It's human nature. As professionals, they feel that if you get in to type of business you should know what you're doing and not ask any basic questions. Which exactly what happened here.
 
WTEngel said:
What area are you located in? Just wondering...

I was born and raised in Fort Worth, worked as a ground medic in the metroplex for 5 years and then flew with CMC Dallas doing CCT transports, fixed and rotor, throughout the country, and Western hemisphere.

Anyway...the aeromed community is small and tight knit, so I am trying to figure what part of the HUGE lone star state you are in...
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I'm gandering a guess here, but I'd say San Antonio. AirLIFE is the only service in Texas flying 430's. Despite having 15 helicopters in a 150 mile radius, our OP feels an additional need for air services. Oh well, I wish him the best.

Star Air Life - If you are successful in making a positive outcome in even one high acuity patient's life, then I applaud you. Just please understand that you have a huge learning curve ahead. You cannot just throw together an air medical service. Despite advice from others comparing apples to oranges by comparing your dream to a ground ambulance service, you have to have a sound business and medical plan or you will not be successful. Quite possibly not even allowed to operate. We all are happy to offer assistance, but do not come into our online home and start talking crap about people who have demonstrated a superior level of knowledge of this industry. You asked the questions, don't get pissy when you get the answers. Good luck!
 
CAOX3 said:
What's with the hostility.

There is tons of information on this forum sometimes you just need a shovel and some boots to find it.

Good luck with your business.
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Type A personalities.
 
wow, for a minute i forgot i was on emtlife and thought i was reading the firehouse.com forums.
 
Flight-LP said:
I'm gandering a guess here, but I'd say San Antonio. AirLIFE is the only service in Texas flying 430's. Despite having 15 helicopters in a 150 mile radius, our OP feels an additional need for air services. Oh well, I wish him the best.
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I hope not for his sake. Everyone and their brother has HEMS down there. All of Texas is pretty well covered by HEMS. I'd like to know where it is he's talking about.
 
There are a few places in far South and Southwest Texas that are served by the San Antonio area HEMS services, and it can take a long time to get the folks out. That said, you have to wonder if those few areas are not better served by a fixed wing service.
 
usalsfyre said:
There are a few places in far South and Southwest Texas that are served by the San Antonio area HEMS services, and it can take a long time to get the folks out. That said, you have to wonder if those few areas are not better served by a fixed wing service.
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I am not very familiar with Texas or Tx Hems at all, but from what I have read so far about the area from this discussion, fixed wing does sound like the way to go.
 
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