How long do you want to remain at an EMT-B level doing very basic skills with a very limited knowledge base for assessments?
Patients don't always come with complaints that are designed for just the EMT-B. That is why other healthcare programs quickly move you along during a 2 or 4 year program so you can start thinking like an advanced provider. You can work with a Paramedic for 20 years but unless you have similiar education and knowledge, you will just be parroting what he/she does. One way to embarrass yourself in the ED is to say something "Could it be x because I once saw something like that and that is what a Paramedic told me he thought it was". It demonstrates you have very little assessment ability and no clue about the disease processes to even begin to know what to look for or form any type of differential diagnosis.
We have enough examples on this forum in the BLS and scenario forums. I don't mean to pick on anyone but it definitely illustrates the thought process from BLS and ALS. Now, if these EMTs were in school taking A&P and other sciences or even in the Paramedic program, those posts would probably be much different.
I definitely don't want to discourage anyone from posting their questions but rather to show the importance of having a decent educational foundation should even be required before EMT-B.
examples:
Was it an MI?
I first responded with my volly dept. the other afternoon to a chest pain call. U/a 84 yo male complaining of chest pain radiating down left arm with a small complaint of sob. Patient stated pain was 8/10 and felt like "an elephant was sitting on his chest". Patient was diaphrotic and pale. Patient placed on 15 liters nrb and states minor relief to the sob.
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I didnt have time to call med control to request permission to administer more nitro. Patient loaded into ambulance and ambulance intercepted with medic. No further information available. So is it an mi? How often will 3 sprays of nitro not dump the bp?
Scenario
You have a 47 y/o pt that has fallen off his horse, he is not responsive to verbal or painful stimuli, as you approach you notice that his respiratioins are slow and deep he has a hematoma to the occiputal portion of the skull as well as battle signs and racoon eyes and a blown right pupil, your pt has absent breath sounds on the right side of the body as well as paradoxical motion, the pt has no distal pulses and cap refill is at 4 sec. the patient has bruising and distension to his abdomen and crepitus to his pelvic region
This is one my teacher gave me it was out of a ALS section but she decided to give it to me
Again, it would be nice if all patients were just defined as "ALS" or "BLS".
"Heart keeps skipping a beat"
Pt states that she often feels heart skip a beat once or twice every day.
However, today it happened every 3-5 minutes for about 30 minutes every hour. States that often when it happens, she feels dizzy and everything around her "turns red." This continued for a few hours.
Pulse 88
BP 136/80 (her normal)
Whenver I take her pulse, it would be pretty regular, suddenly stop (the skipped beat) then continue and be somewhat tachy, then go back to normal.
Never got to find out what happened---any ideas?
While at the "BLS" level, all of the questions are appropriate but it also demonstrates that the BLS and ALS mentality has hurt this profession. People providing care to a patient in an emergent situation should be thinking in advanced level terms. They should not be thinking solely in the terms of someone who knows how to take a BP or put on a few splints. Medicine is more than a few skills.
The one skill that should be perfected at the EMT-B level isn't much of the time. That skill is BP. On the forums we again have many basic questions about taking a BP that should have been taught in class but rarely is. The same for HR and pulse. Too many rely just on the electronic gadgets to do their work. Some also rely on a pulse ox to tell them if the patient is short of breath. Maybe it is thought that the technology can make up for the lack of education.
Quite possibly, for most of the patient care experience that you would get in one year on an ambulance you could get in 1 week shadowing a CNA in a busy hospital. You would probably do as many if not more BPs during that time as you might on an ambulance in 1 year and on many more different patient. You would also have someone who could tell you the proper way to do BPs on dialysis and cancer patients. You would also learn the proper way to move and transport many more patients with many different illnesses, injuries and equipment. That would definitely be helpful especially when some don't realize how frail and brittle some patients are in the LTC facilities. Some can work on an ambulance for 10 years and will still dump an elderly patient with rheumatoid arthritis into the bed like a sack of potatoes. It is possible that they don't know what the disease is or the long term effects. Is it lack of education or because they just don't care? Bad habits and mentors?
So again I stand by a NO for being an EMT-B any longer than it takes one to finish Paramedic school. Continue your education while the EMT-B class is still fresh and use what you are learning in the advanced classes to understand what you are doing as an EMT-B. As well, as I also stated, there should be a long list of prerequisites prior to EMT-B. Then, this thread would not have had to exist. The importance of continuing one's knowledge for patient care would already be evident.