MedicPrincess
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I am breaking this away from the KED thread. Lets go for a rational, calm discussion on this.
I understand the feeling of "Hurry up! This injury happened 15 minutes ago, we have a 20 minute transport time... we need to go."
http://www.thomcosafetynet.com/handouts/2007/BryanBledsoe.pdf
In this discussion, the talk a little about the "Golden 24 hours"
http://www.trauma.org/index.php/com...permail/trauma-list/2005-February/024766.html
Here it is talked about the "Golden Hour" was made up to sell the shock trauma hospital.
http://www.ems1.com/ems-products/co...gain-Medical-Not-Military-Anti-Shock-Trousers
And this one discussed the only 2 conditions where time is actually critical... CVA and AMI
http://www.emsprime.com/
#6..... The Golden Hour was made up, the Platinum Ten was also made up.
http://www.kellygrayson.com/pdfs/EMS Mythbusters.pdf
Now, this isn't to say time doesn't matter on some patients. My patient the other night with a HR of 20, hypotensive, cyanotic, with an AMS.... Okay... Time matters.
But the majority of our calls, you have time to fully assess your pt, get a good history of the problem, and treat appropriately. Up to a 20 minute scene time is not necessarily a bad thing for MOST patients.
Its the hurry up, oh god this patients going to die right now if I don't do XYZ tx, why aren't they on my stretcher yet, oh man there is so much I have to do attitude that results in inadequate patient assessments and errors.
I understand the feeling of "Hurry up! This injury happened 15 minutes ago, we have a 20 minute transport time... we need to go."
http://www.thomcosafetynet.com/handouts/2007/BryanBledsoe.pdf
In this discussion, the talk a little about the "Golden 24 hours"
http://www.trauma.org/index.php/com...permail/trauma-list/2005-February/024766.html
Here it is talked about the "Golden Hour" was made up to sell the shock trauma hospital.
http://www.ems1.com/ems-products/co...gain-Medical-Not-Military-Anti-Shock-Trousers
And this one discussed the only 2 conditions where time is actually critical... CVA and AMI
http://www.emsprime.com/
#6..... The Golden Hour was made up, the Platinum Ten was also made up.
http://www.kellygrayson.com/pdfs/EMS Mythbusters.pdf
Now, this isn't to say time doesn't matter on some patients. My patient the other night with a HR of 20, hypotensive, cyanotic, with an AMS.... Okay... Time matters.
But the majority of our calls, you have time to fully assess your pt, get a good history of the problem, and treat appropriately. Up to a 20 minute scene time is not necessarily a bad thing for MOST patients.
Its the hurry up, oh god this patients going to die right now if I don't do XYZ tx, why aren't they on my stretcher yet, oh man there is so much I have to do attitude that results in inadequate patient assessments and errors.