first aid for a campgroung
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This is interesting and I am interested in what will be said as I too will be doing kinda the same thing on an as needed basis when I finish my first responders class in may.
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I would obtain a list of the requirements of the job, medical/trauma issues they'd like you to deal with, and run it by your medical director. Make it clear to your employer that its just a happy chance that you're an EMT but that you'll only be providing first aid, not BLS stuff. Bandaids, minor splinting and, of course, knowing when to call for help, that's what I would try to limit myself to when I'm not working under medical direction.
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I would read the difference to be OPA, BVM, Splinting devices, suction, collar and such
You started two threads on this...
I'm not sure why you think your card would be in jeopardy? You aren't using any controlled or prescription legend drugs (except perhaps Oxygen, which is allowed in emergency "doses" as I recall) or prescription devices.
Can you be more specific about what your concerns are? EMTs work as first aid and "health officers" at summer camps all the time.
I'm not sure why you think your card would be in jeopardy? You aren't using any controlled or prescription legend drugs (except perhaps Oxygen, which is allowed in emergency "doses" as I recall) or prescription devices.
Can you be more specific about what your concerns are? EMTs work as first aid and "health officers" at summer camps all the time.
When I worked for a summer camp, we had a medical director.
We also had 2 types of responsibilities.
The first which was documented on first aid reports had to do with blisters, splinters, sunburn and the like. Everything regarding that was nothing the average person didn't have the ability to do. It was not considered EMS treatment.
We then had EMS reports, which were used for any sort of "emergency" at the BLS level and utilizing protocols for such.
We also had 2 types of responsibilities.
The first which was documented on first aid reports had to do with blisters, splinters, sunburn and the like. Everything regarding that was nothing the average person didn't have the ability to do. It was not considered EMS treatment.
We then had EMS reports, which were used for any sort of "emergency" at the BLS level and utilizing protocols for such.
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volemt -
I've actually been in your situation. Slightly different.. I was a camp counselor, not in the infirmary. However, I've done the research, and I think I have a little insight and some links for you.
In NYS, once you are an EMT, you may practice as an EMT-Basic anywhere in the state, but with exceptions. You cannot assist with drugs (patient nitro, albuterol, etc), because you do not have an agency code. As a result, you also can't have your own PCRs or anything like it. You are, for all intents and purposes, a Good Samaritan, who happens to be an EMT, and are allowed to operate to the Basic level. Which leaves you the cardinal ABCs, along with splinting/etc. You are still protected by the Good Samaritan law, provided you A) are not with an agency/being paid, and B.) don't violate state BLS protocols/standards. Gross negligence may be okay for a civilian, but since you are trained, you are expected to not screw up. (NYS PHL Article 30 Section 3013)
Also, as posted in another stickied thread, you have no official Duty to Act. However, if you're in a position where you are KNOWN to be the first aid/BLS provider, you would have a duty to act if they summon you.
At a children's camp in NYS, you can operate at a BLS level, provided your camp is registered with NYS DOH and has a medical director. They may or may not have an Agency Code. If they do, that means you should have PCRs for when you treat someone. Also, if they're smart, they'll have an AED and an agreement with the local EMS provider, both of which would also require a Med Director.
At the camp, you may be given EpiPens, or asked to be able to administer them, because you are already an EMT. Provided they are in touch with the State and have a Med Director clearance, you do NOT need Med Control to administer, as the EpiPen becomes a standing order for anaphylaxis. (http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/ems/camp_epipen.htm)
However, if they ask you to dispense other prescribed medication, or worse, NON-prescribed medication (Tylenol, Benadryl, etc), you'll want to either ask for their Medical Director's number, or contact your local NYS DOH BEMS rep to get a definite outline of what you can/cannot do.
At my camp, as a counselor, I carried the EpiPens for two kids in my group. I did not carry EMS supplies (Except bandaids and a couple 4x4s. Carry PLENTY of them! lol), however if/when someone was injured elsewhere at camp, I was summoned to leave my group and assist.
I've actually been in your situation. Slightly different.. I was a camp counselor, not in the infirmary. However, I've done the research, and I think I have a little insight and some links for you.
In NYS, once you are an EMT, you may practice as an EMT-Basic anywhere in the state, but with exceptions. You cannot assist with drugs (patient nitro, albuterol, etc), because you do not have an agency code. As a result, you also can't have your own PCRs or anything like it. You are, for all intents and purposes, a Good Samaritan, who happens to be an EMT, and are allowed to operate to the Basic level. Which leaves you the cardinal ABCs, along with splinting/etc. You are still protected by the Good Samaritan law, provided you A) are not with an agency/being paid, and B.) don't violate state BLS protocols/standards. Gross negligence may be okay for a civilian, but since you are trained, you are expected to not screw up. (NYS PHL Article 30 Section 3013)
Also, as posted in another stickied thread, you have no official Duty to Act. However, if you're in a position where you are KNOWN to be the first aid/BLS provider, you would have a duty to act if they summon you.
At a children's camp in NYS, you can operate at a BLS level, provided your camp is registered with NYS DOH and has a medical director. They may or may not have an Agency Code. If they do, that means you should have PCRs for when you treat someone. Also, if they're smart, they'll have an AED and an agreement with the local EMS provider, both of which would also require a Med Director.
At the camp, you may be given EpiPens, or asked to be able to administer them, because you are already an EMT. Provided they are in touch with the State and have a Med Director clearance, you do NOT need Med Control to administer, as the EpiPen becomes a standing order for anaphylaxis. (http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/ems/camp_epipen.htm)
However, if they ask you to dispense other prescribed medication, or worse, NON-prescribed medication (Tylenol, Benadryl, etc), you'll want to either ask for their Medical Director's number, or contact your local NYS DOH BEMS rep to get a definite outline of what you can/cannot do.
At my camp, as a counselor, I carried the EpiPens for two kids in my group. I did not carry EMS supplies (Except bandaids and a couple 4x4s. Carry PLENTY of them! lol), however if/when someone was injured elsewhere at camp, I was summoned to leave my group and assist.
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