Does this make me a bad EMT?

Bstone- I never stated that it is not ok for an incident to freak you out. Running away when that happens is a completely different story. The OP's most recent update completely changes things, as now it sounds like the amublance was leaving, tasks were performed and she was no longer needed.

To the OP - In no way was I trying to make you feel ashamed or bad, and your most recent update does put it/you in a better light. I had picture you running out while people in the middle of assisting in careing for the patient, and I was merely trying to convey that that would not be acceptable.
 
BandageBrigade said:
To the OP - In no way was I trying to make you feel ashamed or bad, and your most recent update does put it/you in a better light. I had picture you running out while people in the middle of assisting in careing for the patient, and I was merely trying to convey that that would not be acceptable.
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Not a problem. My bad for not putting those details in the light in the first place.
 
Lady_EMT said:
Not a problem. My bad for not putting those details in the light in the first place.
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Your OP sounds like you bailed in the middle of care. My apologies, that DOES change it up quite a bit.

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bstone said:
Sasha, berating people usually doesn't inspire them. You attract more bees with honey. Try it out.
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I'm not berating anyone, I'm discussing the subject at hand. My opinion is someone that runs from the truck in the middle of care should not be in EMS. To me that is a mistake you only get to make ONCE because the potential ramifications of it is not pretty.

Because with further information from the OP, that is not what appears to have happened and I've apologized, then what I've said has no affect on her, does it?

When I encourage someone, it's usually done in private.
 
hoss42141 said:
I am in no way a big bada$$. I have feelings as well. Some (we won't mention names) believe they are impervious to this type of thing. They are the masters of the EMS world. They do no wrong and everyone else does no right. I would not give up my career that I love for one mistake that, even tho it was already stated that on the next major run she shook her head and did what had to be done. She rebounded from this, but those few still believe that she is wrong and needs to leave.
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I'm not a badass either. I have stated several times on this thread that there ARE calls that get to me, but that the proper response was not to run. There are times where I stepped out of the room for a moment to regain my composure and soldier through.

I still maintain someone that bolts from a truck under stress is not someone who needs to be working in EMS, as EMS is stress. Again, that is not the OPs situation but there was no way to know that without the further information provided.
 
OK. I know that you have apologized already. My post was made before the OP made her statement. I still stand by my statement about never doing wrong. Like you have said, that is my right.
 
Yup, that's your right, but what you maintain is wrong. I'm the first to admit I mess up.
 
Shame I caught this so late, now I have to stow my lighter and acetylene.

I get your ability to relate to the call and how it affected you, I do. The worst call of my life (changed it forever) was the same thing. 4yof auto/ped murder (by murder I mean that she was intentionally run over by her father) that was wearing the same sun dress as my 4 yo daughter was that day. The whole thing was a little hard to handle and I projected Wendy's (the dead girl) injuries onto my daughter until I just about went insane. No choice of mine, it just happened. I've been in EMS for some time. Sure, I did the occasional IFT in the early 90's, but I've been solid 911 for a long time. S**t can and will bother you sometimes, that's just how it is.

Your OP and your revision do not change what I originally was going to post (aside from the stuff that would buy me an infraction). I suppose that after 4 years in the game if you were the one in charge you would have hung out and done your job.

I say doom on anyone that has a beef.

Jeff
 
Doom to all!
 
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Great Theatre!

Just have to say this is one helluva thread! It's got everything you could want in varied positions and approaches and judgments and praise and defense, retreat, challenge...YOW! the whole nine yards.

I especially appreciate the heart that was shared and, let's face it, risks taken to put out one's position and then take the inevitable flack.

We took a ride together and I like to think that's what makes us unique in EMS. This thread kind of shows how the coming together of strong voices means everyone learns.

It's a good example of how this site helps build more aware medics. Bravo!
 
I think that the main point here should be that the patient was (probably) obviously dead and there were many other providers around.
I think that these^^ facts allowed her to have the emotional reaction at that time, rather than delaying it as she might have normally done. She is a 4 year veteran. She knows if she is abandoning someone and she knew she wasn't abandoning this patient. She just went to 'post call' emotionally too soon, because she knows there is nothing to be done by her.
The only bad thing about this is the potential impact to family, which is probably overstated.
So bottom line, abandonment should not be an issue here. Not a bad emt. Just make sure that you try to understand what happened and accept it, in order that it won't affect your confidence in the future.
Nobody is impervious.
 
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