Do you arrive too late for highrise SCA's?

Whether it is five or two cycles of CPR before AED, unless you are resuscitating someone who doesn't need it or it was transient such as a borderline electrocution, anyone without cardiac activity is going to need AED and prompt ALS transport to survive. Period.

I'm with you there, Crofty, but like the next message asks, I think the word prompt goes in front of AED. I would see ALS as consolidating these rescues, but not initiating them.

Many areas they could be posted would experience pilferage. We see many AED's sited behind the manager's desk in a l,ocked office, used as a doorstop, or messed with so the electrodes are breached and/or batteries discharged. They never learn, they never drill or train unless we sweet talk them or someone enforces the regs.

A big reason why I think one PAD in the lobby with proper security cleans up most of the issues you cite.

I think maybe a plug-in AED for use in places like restaurants, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, health clubs etc. would be a good and cheaper product.

That's a very good idea. The battery schemes on AED have to be a significant part of their cost to build and maintain.
 
Unless the paramedic can declare death, not a darn thing

I should have written "Prompt ALS arrival", which I felt was implied because I habitually call the responders "transport" since, unless it is a declared death on the scene, they will most likely transport. It's my age showing, I guess.
 
I think we're all on the same page, basically.

My overarching point was that laypeople will decide what to buy, where to position it, and what is done with it later on, despite whatever is most logical, legal, or practical.
 
I ran with your idea, Crofty!

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I think maybe a plug-in AED for use in places like restaurants, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, health clubs etc. would be a good and cheaper product.

I'll jury-rig a panel computer to feed the AEDs juice, reduce battery size, slam them onto the Net and toss in a Walmart cellphone so they can talk to an SCA coach. ;-) **Link Removed**
 
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Hahaha! Good luck.

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