BC (Canada) PCP additions

Medic Tim said:
Not quite. Ontario has provincial standards for education and licensing. They just have little to no say in it.(from what I am told) there are some variations in protocol but Ontario is quite restrictive when compared to other parts of Canada.
I may be wrong but the nwt has absolutely no set standards on education or licensing beyond working under a doctors authorization. Most job posting I see for up there require licensure from another province.
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You are not mistaken. We do not have any legislation here. It's pretty much what the medical director says. Most if not all mineral exploration companies who hire EMTs/PCPs and EMTPs/ACPs here in the NWT require registration with one of the provinces. My service for example we try to follw that standards set forth by the Alberta College of Paramedics as we are on the Alberta / NWT border. Part of our service area is in Alberta.
 
This has been a really interesting read! I'm a PCP student in ontario partway through my second year. I'm planning on continuing my education and finishing my ACP course right away then id love to move back home to work BC! Reading about the differences is pretty cool, id love to hear more info because around here all you really hear about is whats happening within the province. Anyone know how smooth or hard or a transition that is (going form On. to BC.)

*dont mean to threadjack! haha
 
I'm licensed in three provinces (BC, AB, Ont) and I can say once you get your initial license, getting licensed in another province is pretty straightforward.
 
cprted said:
I'm licensed in three provinces (BC, AB, Ont) and I can say once you get your initial license, getting licensed in another province is pretty straightforward.
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This ^^^
I am licensed in BC, AB, NB and until last year NS.
Once you license in 1 province, you can transfer it into any other without having to retest (You will most likely have a small test on specific provincial laws and regulations) But they are usually pretty easy. Also be aware that while a license will transfer you may not get full scope and may get restrictions on your license.
 
I seem to recall getting an email a procoagulants coming down the pipeline as well, but I haven;'t heard anything about it since then. Has anyone heard any news since then?
 
Still in the pipeline as far as I know. CPAP for BLS will be coming out this fall with the AIME update course.
 
I wouldn't recommend going straight to acp with no time working as a pcp
 
Afterbang said:
could you elaborate as to why? lack of experience that im assuming?
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Most colleges requires you to have actual working time as a PCP. The Justice Institute of British Columbia for example require you to have a minimum of 1 year experience as a PCP before entering their ACP course. I would also not recommend going straight into an ACP course. It's very technical and experience is nothing but an asset.
 
interesting. ..my college dosent require pcp experience but its a part time course so you can work at the same time you complete your ACP.
 
MedicDelta said:
Most colleges requires you to have actual working time as a PCP. The Justice Institute of British Columbia for example require you to have a minimum of 1 year experience as a PCP before entering their ACP course. I would also not recommend going straight into an ACP course. It's very technical and experience is nothing but an asset.
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As far as I know SAIT, and NAIT only require you be a registered EMT/PCP. Medicine Hat College has a 4 yr zero to hero Bachelors program for EMTP/ACP, and they don't even require you be an EMR to enter their program. Why is EMS different from the other medical professions, RNs don't have to be LPNs and MDs and DOs dont have to be PAs, so why does one have to have experience as a lower level provider in EMS. In Alberta for those that don't know they call their PCPs EMTs, and ACPs are called EMTPs
 
fortsmithman said:
As far as I know SAIT, and NAIT only require you be a registered EMT/PCP. Medicine Hat College has a 4 yr zero to hero Bachelors program for EMTP/ACP, and they don't even require you be an EMR to enter their program. Why is EMS different from the other medical professions, RNs don't have to be LPNs and MDs and DOs dont have to be PAs, so why does one have to have experience as a lower level provider in EMS. In Alberta for those that don't know they call their PCPs EMTs, and ACPs are called EMTPs
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The JIBC require you to be a certified EMR before entering their PCP course, and before you enter their ACP course you have to have a minimum of 1 year working as a PCP. I agree with the way they do this because you have to be good at the basics before you can move on to the more advanced stuff. Doing it this way also increases your chance for success, in my opinion. Obviously not all colleges are the same though with their requirements. In Ontario you go straight into a PCP course usually with just a Standard First Aid and CPR/AED certificate being required. That's because EMR doesn't exist in Ontario. The reason the JIBC does it the way they do is because of the reasons I mentioned. And I really don't think that's a bad idea. Also, you do have to be an RN before becoming an NP as a side note.
 
MedicDelta said:
The JIBC require you to be a certified EMR before entering their PCP course, and before you enter their ACP course you have to have a minimum of 1 year working as a PCP. I agree with the way they do this because you have to be good at the basics before you can move on to the more advanced stuff. Doing it this way also increases your chance for success, in my opinion. Obviously not all colleges are the same though with their requirements. In Ontario you go straight into a PCP course usually with just a Standard First Aid and CPR/AED certificate being required. That's because EMR doesn't exist in Ontario. The reason the JIBC does it the way they do is because of the reasons I mentioned. And I really don't think that's a bad idea. Also, you do have to be an RN before becoming an NP as a side note.
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The JI's PCP program is also an accelerated program, hence the reason for the EMR prereq.
 
MedicDelta said:
So is the one here in Nova Scotia with Medavie HealthEd, no EMR requirement.
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Medavie's PCP is still longer than the JI's by over a month ... not arguing that short is a good thing by any stretch of the imagination.
 
EMR is not an EMS license level in NB and NS. The medavie program is about 10-11 months all said and done. I have worked with a few BC PCPs who got their pcp in about 6.

I worked 3 years as a PCP before going on to ACP. I wish I had gone back to school much earlier. My acp program had a mix of experience and zero to hero. The guys with no experience had a harder time on truck and in the hospital as they were still learning to interact with pts. They also had a harder time taking control of a scene and the general everyday "operations".

The problem with experience is that not all experience is the same. Some is good, some is great, and some is horrible.
 
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