Benefits of AEMT

[NysEms2117]

Talking to various sources of people, I am getting the sense that AEMT is a rather "useless" role. Anybody I talk to says your should either suck it up for the year of medic school, or stay a basic. Just trying to get a few opinions on it because it was a serious option for me but I don't want to waste time and money on it.

 

[Qulevrius]

It's an investment vs gain. As a Basic, you can do very little; as an Advanced, you can do a bit more. As a medic, you can do significantly more (compared to both B and A). The way I see it, it's a 'should I do it' vs 'why should I do it'. And per our conversation a few days ago, I still think you're much better off going straight for ADN/BSN, bridge everything else once you're done and then rest easy til you retire.

 

[EpiEMS]

Depends on your role and where you are.
If you're a volunteer in a rural area, AEMT makes sense to me. If you're in NYC, it's useless, they don't even recognize it. Where it's hard is somewhere like...Nassau County, where they have the AEMT-CC, with 250 hours and mother-may-I protocols, it's cool to be able to do all those things but boy, they are way undereducated to be doing those procedures!

I love the idea of AEMT as the minimum for at least one provider on a 911 ambulance, or as the secondary provider on a medic ambulance. What I don't love is when AEMT goes way too deep into skills and not enough into knowledge (thing EMT-I'99 or NYS's AEMT-CC).

 

[Qulevrius]

Depends on your role and where you are.
If you're a volunteer in a rural area, AEMT makes sense to me. If you're in NYC, it's useless, they don't even recognize it. Where it's hard is somewhere like...Nassau County, where they have the AEMT-CC, with 250 hours and mother-may-I protocols, it's cool to be able to do all those things but boy, they are way undereducated to be doing those procedures!

I love the idea of AEMT as the minimum for at least one provider on a 911 ambulance, or as the secondary provider on a medic ambulance. What I don't love is when AEMT goes way too deep into skills and not enough into knowledge (thing EMT-I'99 or NYS's AEMT-CC).

I still think it's goal-dependent. If the goal is career -> medic/RN, if knowledge -> medic/RN; if level of care -> medic/RN; if money -> definitely [medic]/RN. AEMT just seems like a semi-worthless in-between option for people who're either reluctant about time investment, sell themselves too short on an education scale, or are simply afraid of challenges.

 

[NysEms2117]

Depends on your role and where you are.
If you're a volunteer in a rural area, AEMT makes sense to me. If you're in NYC, it's useless, they don't even recognize it. Where it's hard is somewhere like...Nassau County, where they have the AEMT-CC, with 250 hours and mother-may-I protocols, it's cool to be able to do all those things but boy, they are way undereducated to be doing those procedures!

I love the idea of AEMT as the minimum for at least one provider on a 911 ambulance, or as the secondary provider on a medic ambulance. What I don't love is when AEMT goes way too deep into skills and not enough into knowledge (thing EMT-I'99 or NYS's AEMT-CC).

Well I'm aiming for a part time gig that will help me get into the Feds for my "real job". I'm up in NYS Albany not the city which it is recognized. So it's just a weird situation. I may be heading for an A.S.N just trying to figure my sht out and get a few opinions from folks that know much more then I do

 

[NysEms2117]

AEMT just seems like a semi-worthless in-between option for people who're either reluctant about time investment, sell themselves too short on an education scale, or are simply afraid of challenges.

I see that. I'm not reluctant about investment I just don't know if I have it in me for nursing school or medic school. I'm fine with challenges, again just have no time Expecially now with some personal issues.

 

[EpiEMS]

AEMT just seems like a semi-worthless in-between option for people who're either reluctant about time investment, sell themselves too short on an education scale, or are simply afraid of challenges.

The thing is that it's not (entirely) worthless. It adds knowledge and skills that may be lacking in a given area, or can be a good bridge from EMT to medic. That being said, if I were a career provider, it might be hard to justify not doing a medic program.

Well I'm aiming for a part time gig that will help me get into the Feds for my "real job". I'm up in NYS Albany not the city which it is recognized. So it's just a weird situation. I may be heading for an A.S.N just trying to figure my sht out and get a few opinions from folks that know much more then I do

AEMT can't hurt! It could be helpful for a federal gig, and definitely provides some skills that you'd otherwise learn in your ADN program - no reason not to learn IV administration, etc. sooner than later.

I think aemt may be recognized in the Albany area REMAC - but probably outside the city?

 

[NysEms2117]

The thing is that it's not (entirely) worthless. It adds knowledge and skills that may be lacking in a given area, or can be a good bridge from EMT to medic. That being said, if I were a career provider, it might be hard to justify not doing a medic program.


AEMT can't hurt! It could be helpful for a federal gig, and definitely provides some skills that you'd otherwise learn in your ADN program - no reason not to learn IV administration, etc. sooner than later.

I think aemt may be recognized in the Albany area REMAC - but probably outside the city?

My "agency" as in the sherifs office ems unit. Will pay for the aemt or my main job will pay for college schooling so it's just a decision and like I said I'm just looking to gather as much info as possible. I don't think I would ever have the time to become a medic. Because that's a year but not a "night school" environment. I don't even know if nursing school is that but, i would have to presume it would be more common for that

 

[Qulevrius]

Starting IVs is a 2-hr skill. If that's the main reason people take the AEMT class, that's a very expensive 2-hr.

Edit: oh, if the Sheriff's is paying for the class then by all means, milk that. But if they're willing to pay for college, I'd do that instead.

 

[NysEms2117]

Starting IVs is a 2-hr skill. If that's the main reason people take the AEMT class, that's a very expensive 2-hr.

Edit: oh, if the Sheriff's is paying for the class then by all means, milk that. But if they're willing to pay for college, I'd do that instead.

The sheriffs office would pay for the emt class the dpt of corrections(my main work) will pay for the college aspect. Thank both of you for your knowledge !


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[EpiEMS]

The sheriffs office would pay for the emt class the dpt of corrections(my main work) will pay for the college aspect. Thank both of you for your knowledge !


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Free class? Sign me up!

AEMT is worthwhile if you're looking for a couple of elective credits. I've seen it for 6 credits, but I'd wager it could be more with co-requisites.

Not sure if Albany County (i.e. Hudson-Mohawk REMSCO) recognizes the AEMT-I and/or the AEMT-CC, but if their use of the collaborative protocols is any indication, I'd wager they use one or both of them. Given this, either level would add quite a few skills, though I'd be very very careful about signing on as an AEMT-CC, as the education is pretty limited relative to the skills. (I wouldn't want to be intubating anybody, say, with less than a couple dozen training attempts...)

 

[NysEms2117]

I can't quote anything on my phone because reasons... But what you said about aemt cc is exactly what I was scared of. I just don't know which route I should go. Both would be free, part of the reason why I can say "I love my job" lol


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[EpiEMS]

I can't quote anything on my phone because reasons... But what you said about aemt cc is exactly what I was scared of. I just don't know which route I should go. Both would be free, part of the reason why I can say "I love my job" lol


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So, if they have AEMT-I, I would do that instead. If you want to do AEMT-CC, do it, but I would be cautious because you may be the highest level provider on scene, and I - frankly - would be scared to do some of those interventions with limited training, even if I had med control on board (AEMT-CC typically has to, I'm told).

You could also try and see if they'll let you take A&P or some additional biology classes?

 

[NysEms2117]

So, if they have AEMT-I, I would do that instead. If you want to do AEMT-CC, do it, but I would be cautious because you may be the highest level provider on scene, and I - frankly - would be scared to do some of those interventions with limited training, even if I had med control on board (AEMT-CC typically has to, I'm told).

You could also try and see if they'll let you take A&P or some additional biology classes?

Well my thing is that i can't over-do it with all the educational stuff because I still need to be able to function and do my main job+ overtime if need be. So I'm really limiting myself to under 8 credit hours or the equivalent due to the fact I can't spend forever studying outside of class. What would taking the additional A&P classes do for me( I understand they are part of the nursing degree but if I go the cc or intermediate route, I don't know exactly what I would get out of it)


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[Qulevrius]

What would taking the additional A&P classes do for me( I understand they are part of the nursing degree but if I go the cc or intermediate route, I don't know exactly what I would get out of it)

Knowledge that you can tie directly to the hands-on stuff.

 

[EpiEMS]

Well my thing is that i can't over-do it with all the educational stuff because I still need to be able to function and do my main job+ overtime if need be. So I'm really limiting myself to under 8 credit hours or the equivalent due to the fact I can't spend forever studying outside of class. What would taking the additional A&P classes do for me( I understand they are part of the nursing degree but if I go the cc or intermediate route, I don't know exactly what I would get out of it)

A&P ties right back to everything we do in EMS, and even if it's not immediately relevant, it'll help with "ok, so what's the ED physician or paramedic doing my ALS intercept looking for, and how can I help them?"

Plus, A&P will make your AEMT or Medic class easier -- for the very same reasons.

Can you find an AEMT-I course near you?

 

[NysEms2117]

A&P ties right back to everything we do in EMS, and even if it's not immediately relevant, it'll help with "ok, so what's the ED physician or paramedic doing my ALS intercept looking for, and how can I help them?"

Plus, A&P will make your AEMT or Medic class easier -- for the very same reasons.

Can you find an AEMT-I course near you?

Yes I can find both AEMT I and AEMT-CC in Albany. As well as ASN programs. So I'm still at square one lol. On one hand I feel like aemt I is good because I may be helpful to medics. Or critical because I can be even more helpful. Idk I think time will help me decide


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[Qulevrius]

Yes I can find both AEMT I and AEMT-CC in Albany. As well as ASN programs. So I'm still at square one lol. On one hand I feel like aemt I is good because I may be helpful to medics. Or critical because I can be even more helpful. Idk I think time will help me decide


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Just don't take too long to think about it. The longer you wait, the easier it becomes to come up with excuses for not doing it.

 

[NysEms2117]

Just don't take too long to think about it. The longer you wait, the easier it becomes to come up with excuses for not doing it.

It's definitely happening. It's free so I have no excuse. Once some personal problems are cleared up I will finalize and send the bill to the state. Leaning towards ASN. As it sits now and challenging the critical care test