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Hello All,

Quick question: I start my EMT-B course in January; its 13 weeks long. Is it feasible to manage taking my EMT-B course with a fire science class? The fire science class is 8 weeks in duration and online. What are your thoughts? Should I just focus on my EMT-B course now, then take my fire science classes. Thank you for your input, and Happy New Years!
 
It depends on how strong of a student you are.

EMT in 13 weeks I assume its everyday for 8 hours a day? The EMT Basic Course is pretty much a advanced first aid course, and the average high school student could complete the class without difficulty.

Online classes if you never taken one before require excessive discipline, to make sure your assignments are completed on time with reading material on your own time, on top of if you get assignments in your EMT class, I would like to know where are you taking Fire Science online? Or is it just General Ed requirements for a associates program?
 
Hello, and thank you for your response. To answer your questions, here goes: I'm taking my EMT-B course at Florida Medical Training Institute (FMTI) Jacksonville, FL. It is a 13 week, part-time evening program that meets three days a week from 6pm-10pm. I'm taking my online fire science courses at American Military University (AMU). Additionally, I work full-time days. I'm an ok student (B-/C+) depending on the class I'm taking. I just recently finished my college-level A/P class in preparation for EMT school. The reason I want to take the Introduction to Fire Protection class in conjunction with my EMT-B is because I will be attending the FFI/II Academy one month after I graduate EMT-B. I wanted to get a familiarization with fire science basics prior to the academy starting. Your thoughts?
 
Good for you taking the A&P class first, it'll put you ahead of the game. Beware when people tell you how easy EMT class is. The material isn't hard, but a lot of people fail it for some reason(usually poor instruction or lack of effort).

For some reason from my experience helping teach practical lab, Firefighters almost universally do worse than other students, probably because they don't have a real interest in the medical field and are just doing it to advance their fire career, or just don't have the right mentality(cockiness is a big time liability when you have know clue what your doing and are too proud to admit it).

One thing to keep in mind though is that you can work in EMS without any Fire training, whereas its really hard to be employed as a Fire fighter without EMS training, in fact around here Paramedic is the minimum.

Semper Fi
 
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HogWiley,
Thank you for your response. I definitely appreciate it. I think I'm just going to focus on all of my medical training first, and then transition to my firefighter training--if I don't get hooked on EMS. I'm currently an active-duty Marine with a little over 17 years of service. I'm preparing myself for my next career move after the service. EMS/ FF is something that I always had an interest in. I'm really anxious to get started. Any advice from one Marine to another to guarantee success in EMT school? Again, thanks for your feedback--and Semper Fi!!!

Quentin
 
HogWiley,
Thank you for your response. I definitely appreciate it. I think I'm just going to focus on all of my medical training first, and then transition to my firefighter training--if I don't get hooked on EMS. I'm currently an active-duty Marine with a little over 17 years of service. I'm preparing myself for my next career move after the service. EMS/ FF is something that I always had an interest in. I'm really anxious to get started. Any advice from one Marine to another to guarantee success in EMT school? Again, thanks for your feedback--and Semper Fi!!!

Quentin

Former Army Medic, so I'm not Ooorah lol.

However My best advice for the EMT-Basic Student is study don't overdo it, Do lets say 10 minutes a shot. most adults have an average attention span of 10 minutes and even If you are studying well. you might just space off and forget half of what you read due to the fact that you lost concentration

The other advice I give is find you weak point and build on it. If your weak point is assessments try to get an assessment practice on everyone, At your field sites ask providers to make up scenarios to improve your assessment skills. Accept critique good and bad.

Thanks I was looking to see if I could take some Fire Science courses online to build my firefighter credentials up. But I don't think I'm elgible for the AMU
 
With 17 years in the Marine Corps I cant envision EMT school itself as being too much trouble. A lot of the training is hands on and done in a see it, practice it, test out on it manner that's similar to the way things in the Marines are taught, except in a far more easy going manner. The hard part comes in knowing WHY things are done and when something is appropriate to do or not appropriate, as well as developing critical thinking and decision making skills.

In the field you will find things far more confusing and chaotic than how things went in class. Patients don't cooperate, often have an altered mental status, bystanders and family are just as likely to get in the way and make your job harder as they are to help and provide useful information, and can sometimes be downright hostile. Sometimes they have it in their head that THIS should be done, and if you aren't doing what they expect(or saw on TV), they want to know why you aren't helping the patient. The weather and conditions you face can be just as big a problem as the patient's medical condition. For instance on the way to a scene you will frequently be facing the same weather conditions that caused the accident you are responding to.

At the EMT level you will often find yourself in situations where a patient is in bad shape and deteriorating, and quite frankly you don't have the knowledge or the tools to do much about it. You can be in EMS for years and still continually run into situations where you learn something new or see something you've never seen before. You will run into candidates for the Darwin awards on a regular basis.

Practice doing run reports, going through what if scenarios and thinking through what you would do in certain situations, and don't expect the best case scenario, always be prepared for things to not go right and to go south quickly. For instance think of what you are going to do if the patient you are extricating from a wreck stops breathing or needs to be suctioned, so if it happens you aren't caught with your pants down.

Understand that in the real world things are never going to be as simple and clean as they are in the classroom. You wont always have a patient lying flat on their back who needs to be spine boarded. They may be lying in a crumpled heap halfway down some stairs with their neck at an unnatural angle, or may be soaking wet in a bathtub with a fractured pelvis and covered in feces(both examples of things Ive run into). In EMS those people that can improvise will go far, those that cant will probably get burned out quickly.

Practice the basics like taking vital signs so much that you become an expert at it, and search out other sources of information like nursing text books, because so many of your patients are going to be medical train wrecks and have a long history of medical procedures and have devices you should be at least somewhat familiar with.

Remember that in EMS its 99% BullSh*# and 1% oh Sh*#, not unlike combat.
 
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