Not my first major trauma, but definitely a major trauma.

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This was one of those calls where you know your patient is sick, but you don't quite realize how sick.

Country road, posted limit 30mph, average speed over 45mph. Sedan traveling an unknown rate of speed, left the roadway, hits a drive way, rolls once landing on the wheels. The only occupant, the driver, is ejected. She is 5'2'', 180ish lbs, only window missing is the driver's side window.

On scene she doesn't remember the accident, but recognizes where she is. She denied meds, allergies, alcohol use etc on scene, however it turns out later she is intoxicated (came out to be nearly a .20. In my defense I have allergies and couldn't smell a darn thing).

Her LOC is going up and down. Initially GCS of 15. It would decrease down to 8, stay there for a bit, and then slowly come back up. When it came back up she was panicked and confused, and each time she remembered less and less of what happened, and was less oriented. She ended up never dropping under a 13, though she did become more lethargic.

Ok, now for the injuries.

5 broken ribs on the left, 4 on the right, fractured sternum, fractured R clavicle, multiple broken spinous processes in the thoracic and lumbar spine (no fractured vertebra or spinal cord injury). Hemothroax on the left, "fractured" kidney on the left, partially transected aorta.

She appeared to have slid on the ground, her entire back was abraded. No visible bruises on her torso, but she had a bunch of bruises on her lower legs. No head, neck or spine injuries.

On scene her BP was roughly 120/p, pulse over 100. En route BP was checked by a FF, who said he thought it was still around 120/p, but that he didn't trust it, pulse of 116. Initial vitals in the ER were BP of 100/60 with a pulse of 124. I was in the ER room for some time because the doc really likes to talk to us directly, and I was watching her pulse slowly go up and thinking "she is worse off than she looks...". Her SpO2 was 93-94%. She refused to keep any kind of mask or cannula on, even in the ER.

She made it through surgery but the ER doc isn't sure she will make it out of the ICU. He said her risk of pneumonia is so high he thinks she will die from it.
 
This was one of those calls where you know your patient is sick, but you don't quite realize how sick.

Country road, posted limit 30mph, average speed over 45mph. Sedan traveling an unknown rate of speed, left the roadway, hits a drive way, rolls once landing on the wheels. The only occupant, the driver, is ejected. She is 5'2'', 180ish lbs, only window missing is the driver's side window.

On scene she doesn't remember the accident, but recognizes where she is. She denied meds, allergies, alcohol use etc on scene, however it turns out later she is intoxicated (came out to be nearly a .20. In my defense I have allergies and couldn't smell a darn thing).

Her LOC is going up and down. Initially GCS of 15. It would decrease down to 8, stay there for a bit, and then slowly come back up. When it came back up she was panicked and confused, and each time she remembered less and less of what happened, and was less oriented. She ended up never dropping under a 13, though she did become more lethargic.

Ok, now for the injuries.

5 broken ribs on the left, 4 on the right, fractured sternum, fractured R clavicle, multiple broken spinous processes in the thoracic and lumbar spine (no fractured vertebra or spinal cord injury). Hemothroax on the left, "fractured" kidney on the left, partially transected aorta.

She appeared to have slid on the ground, her entire back was abraded. No visible bruises on her torso, but she had a bunch of bruises on her lower legs. No head, neck or spine injuries.

On scene her BP was roughly 120/p, pulse over 100. En route BP was checked by a FF, who said he thought it was still around 120/p, but that he didn't trust it, pulse of 116. Initial vitals in the ER were BP of 100/60 with a pulse of 124. I was in the ER room for some time because the doc really likes to talk to us directly, and I was watching her pulse slowly go up and thinking "she is worse off than she looks...". Her SpO2 was 93-94%. She refused to keep any kind of mask or cannula on, even in the ER.

She made it through surgery but the ER doc isn't sure she will make it out of the ICU. He said her risk of pneumonia is so high he thinks she will die from it.

Interesting. So it looks like she might have a head injury then? What was causing her increasing tachycardia with hypotension? Blood loss into pleural cavity? Hopefully you remember/wrote down her details so you can follow up to see if she lives etc
 
Interesting. So it looks like she might have a head injury then? What was causing her increasing tachycardia with hypotension? Blood loss into pleural cavity? Hopefully you remember/wrote down her details so you can follow up to see if she lives etc

I'm willing to go with the kidney injury, the hemothorax and the transected aorta causing those shock symptoms.

Seems awfully premature for the ER doc to be expecting her to die, though. I get that she's going to be a sick puppy for a good while, but all together those injuries don't seem completely life-ending.
 
She had a concussion, but the ALOC was more from the alcohol than anything. The scans were negative for any intracranial bleeding.

It was transected aorta that was causing the shock symptoms. The kidney wasn't bleeding too much on the scans. The doc told us that after seeing the scans he was kind of surprised she hadn't coded on us in the field, and really surprised she didn't code in the ER. They had placed a stent in her aorta via the femoral artery, and they were waiting to see if that held, or if they would have to open her chest to fix it again.

When you start looking at her whole clinical picture his estimation makes more sense. Shes got a stent in her aorta, a chest tube in, broken ribs on both sides and a fractured sternum. There is no if she gets pneumonia, she will get pneumonia. She is also at a huge risk for clots because she isn't going to be moving much, and they can't give her blood thinners right now.

I also forgot to mention she is an alcoholic, which adds another level of complication to the matter.
 
She had a concussion, but the ALOC was more from the alcohol than anything. The scans were negative for any intracranial bleeding.

It was transected aorta that was causing the shock symptoms. The kidney wasn't bleeding too much on the scans. The doc told us that after seeing the scans he was kind of surprised she hadn't coded on us in the field, and really surprised she didn't code in the ER. They had placed a stent in her aorta via the femoral artery, and they were waiting to see if that held, or if they would have to open her chest to fix it again.

When you start looking at her whole clinical picture his estimation makes more sense. Shes got a stent in her aorta, a chest tube in, broken ribs on both sides and a fractured sternum. There is no if she gets pneumonia, she will get pneumonia. She is also at a huge risk for clots because she isn't going to be moving much, and they can't give her blood thinners right now.

I also forgot to mention she is an alcoholic, which adds another level of
complication to the matter.


I understand the whole clinical picture thing, but, having seen so, so many people survive worse insults, my faith in the STICUs of the world is higher. Or maybe our unit just wouldn't *let* anyone die. She has a bad ortho picture, and the aorta is ugly, but there are just so many ways to overcome these injuries.

Only time will tell. If you get an update, can you share it?
 
Yeah, ugly is right. That usually isn't a survivable injury. I'm not sure if/when it will be, but I will get an update. I have to get either our med director or the same ED doc to look her up for me. I know either of them would do it, it's just a matter of when I will see one of them next.
 
That, and just because you patient is conscious, alert and has decent vitals doesn't mean they aren't about to die on you. Basically, her presentation on scene hadn't caught up to her injuries yet. She was much more severely injured than she initially appeared to be on scene.
 
That, and just because you patient is conscious, alert and has decent vitals doesn't mean they aren't about to die on you. Basically, her presentation on scene hadn't caught up to her injuries yet. She was much more severely injured than she initially appeared to be on scene.

The compensatory mechanisms are insane, aren't they?
 
It is impressive, especially considering how intoxicated she was. I don't know how much she drinks on a daily basis though, so she might live around .20 on a daily basis.
 
Thinking about it now, did you see evidence in the car of where she smacked her chest? What did the steering wheel look like?
 
She was much more severely injured than she initially appeared to be on scene.

I do volly first aid at a motor cross event locally and I've often wondered how response time would effect my appraisal of injuries. If I trot up to a guy who fell off his bike 35 seconds ago one would think you'd have to re-frame the way you interpret vitals before deciding on treatment/triage/transport/discharge decisions. Its not really been a problem so far, but I do wonder if it will affect things.
 
What is interesting is that it was probably 5-10 minutes from the time of the accident to when I had contact with her. Someone drove up on the accident and called 911. It is a well traveled road, so we don't think she was there long.

I have a semi-educated theory, which is that the pt was lying on her left side when the police got there, and they knew enough to not move her. She was definitely a larger woman, and I wonder if lying on her side like that was tamponading off the bleeding somewhat because of the pressure on her left side.
 
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