This past summer, I was working at a performance venue as an EMT, and had a case I didnt really know how to handle. I was with an RN and another EMT, and they seemed to figure it out, but I'm wondering what you would do.
I was called over to an 78 y/o/m, sitting in a lawn chair in the sun. He reported that his internal pacemaker/defib shocked him while sitting. His wife (who was holding his hand), reported feeling a shock, and let go. Sitting, his pulse was approx. 95. Pt. reported getting the implant four years ago, and with one exception, it had never gone off. The one other time it had gone off, he was plunging a toilet. Pt. reported some pressure on his chest right after the shock, but said it went away quickly. Although resps were normal, he was a little sweaty (possibly related to being in the sun).
I called for some help, but the other EMT was on the other side of the grounds. As I was radioing for some help, the pt stood up, and said that he wanted to walk to the first aid station. I walked with him, and noticed that his pulse decreased as time went on, even though he was standing and walking. Once at the station, his BP was 135/90, pulse 90, resps normal. We have a BLS ambulance on the grounds, and the crew came over to see what was going on.
5 minutes later, his BP was 125/85, pulse 75, resps normal. After 10 minutes, pt stated he felt much better and wanted to leave. Although we encouraged him to go to the ER for assessment, he signed a refusal. We asked to stay around for a little while longer just so we could observe him, and he complied. Pt mentioned having an existing appointment with his cardiologist the next day. Fifteen minutes after arriving at the station, his BP was 122/88. pulse 70.
What would you do differently? Although his BP and pulse were high at the beginning, they stabilized. Pt felt much better, and was going to follow up with an MD. Should we have insisted on sending him to the ER?
I was called over to an 78 y/o/m, sitting in a lawn chair in the sun. He reported that his internal pacemaker/defib shocked him while sitting. His wife (who was holding his hand), reported feeling a shock, and let go. Sitting, his pulse was approx. 95. Pt. reported getting the implant four years ago, and with one exception, it had never gone off. The one other time it had gone off, he was plunging a toilet. Pt. reported some pressure on his chest right after the shock, but said it went away quickly. Although resps were normal, he was a little sweaty (possibly related to being in the sun).
I called for some help, but the other EMT was on the other side of the grounds. As I was radioing for some help, the pt stood up, and said that he wanted to walk to the first aid station. I walked with him, and noticed that his pulse decreased as time went on, even though he was standing and walking. Once at the station, his BP was 135/90, pulse 90, resps normal. We have a BLS ambulance on the grounds, and the crew came over to see what was going on.
5 minutes later, his BP was 125/85, pulse 75, resps normal. After 10 minutes, pt stated he felt much better and wanted to leave. Although we encouraged him to go to the ER for assessment, he signed a refusal. We asked to stay around for a little while longer just so we could observe him, and he complied. Pt mentioned having an existing appointment with his cardiologist the next day. Fifteen minutes after arriving at the station, his BP was 122/88. pulse 70.
What would you do differently? Although his BP and pulse were high at the beginning, they stabilized. Pt felt much better, and was going to follow up with an MD. Should we have insisted on sending him to the ER?