Al Qaeda plot to Attack Hospitals Uncovered

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LODI, California (CNN) -- Authorities said Wednesday they believe a father and son arrested in this quaint northern California community were involved in a larger al Qaeda plan to carry out jihad, or holy war, against the United States.

"We believe through our investigation that various individuals connected to al Qaeda have been operating in the Lodi area in various capacities," FBI special agent in charge Keith Slotter told reporters.

He said those included "individuals who have received terrorist training abroad, with the specific intent to initiate a terrorist attack in the United States and to harm Americans and our institutions."

Slotter said, however, no evidence has been found of specific plans, targets or timing of a possible attack. He said more arrests were possible.

Authorities earlier this week arrested the father and son, identified as 47-year-old Umer Hayat and 22-year-old Hamid Hayat from Lodi, on charges they lied to FBI investigators. The son is to be arraigned Friday.

They have not been charged with terrorist involvement, although a criminal complaint alleges the son attended an al Qaeda training camp in Pakistan.

Two others in Lodi -- Muslim leaders Muhammed Adil Khan and Shabbir Ahmed -- have been arrested on immigration violations, but authorities have not elaborated on a possible connection between the Hayats and them.

An affidavit describing the alleged activities of the Hayats was unsealed Tuesday evening by the federal court for the Eastern District of California in Sacramento. Lodi is 35 miles south of Sacramento.

In the affidavit, the younger Hayat admitted he attended the al Qaeda-supported camp and that during his weapons training, photographs of "various high-ranking U.S. political figures, including President Bush, would be pasted on their targets."

Sacramento attorney Johnny Griffin III, who represents the father, acknowledged the affidavit is "very alarming." But, he said, "we must keep in mind they are not charged with any terrorist activity. They are only charged with making false statements."

Both Hayats are U.S. citizens; Hamid Hayat was born in California, the affidavit says.

According to the affidavit, the younger Hayat confessed to attending the camp in Pakistan, which he said was run by al Qaeda, in 2003-2004.

He said he had gone to Pakistan ostensibly to attend a madrassa, or school, run by his grandfather.

According to immigration records, the affidavit says, Hayat left the United States for Pakistan on April 19, 2003, and arrived on April 21. His records show he departed Pakistan on May 27, 2005.

Hayat denied attending the camp to an FBI agent in Japan, where his flight from South Korea to San Francisco was diverted May 29 when his name appeared on a "no-fly" list.

Hayat was allowed to continue his flight to San Francisco based on his denial.

His no-fly status was changed in Japan to "selectee," Slotter said, meaning more information was needed to determine whether he should be on the no-fly list.

Asked why Hamid Hayat was on a no-fly list, Charles DeMore, special agent in charge with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, declined to answer.

The FBI interviewed Hamid Hayat again on June 3, and again he denied attending the jihadist camp, according to the affidavit. Umer Hayat was interviewed the same day and said the same thing, the document says.

Affidavit details
The following day, Hamid Hayat "voluntarily appeared at the Sacramento office of the FBI to take a polygraph examination that had been requested by the FBI," the affidavit says. With him was his father.

The affidavit says the polygraph found "his answers to the relevant questions ... indicative of deception."

After two more hours of questioning "Hamid admitted that he had in fact attended a jihadist training camp in Pakistan" for six months.

Hayat described his training and said he learned "how to kill Americans" and selected the United States as the turf for his jihadi mission, the affidavit says.

In a separate interview, his father not only denied the existence of such a camp but also his son's participation in one, the affidavit says.

But, the document says, after seeing the video of his son's confession, Umer Hayat confirmed his son's story and revealed that he paid for his flight to Pakistan and provided him with $100 per month.

Umer Hayat provided details about the madrassa his son attended as well as the camp and others, which he told agents he was "invited" to visit and "assigned a driver who drove him from camp to camp."

The elder Hayat said the camp was run by Maulana Fazlur Rehman -- believed to be Maulana Fazlur Rehman Khalil, who has long been suspected of running training camps in Pakistan.

Khalil, a Hezbi mujahedeen, has on several occasions been detained and questioned by Pakistani authorities.

In 1998, Khalil was the only mujahedeen leader to hold a news conference after the United States fired cruise missiles at a training camp in an attempt to kill Osama bin Laden.

At the time, Khalil said more than a dozen of his people died and vowed revenge against the United States.

Two and a half months ago, Khalil told a media contact he had cancer.

Islamic leaders held
The two local Islamic leaders -- Khan and Ahmed -- were detained on immigration charges and will face an immigration hearing, FBI Special Agent John Cauthen said

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Interesting story. Kinda ties in with the ambulance hijacking plots uncovered earlier.
 
I didn't see where it said they were going to attack hospitals.

What ambulance hijacking plot?
 
Originally posted by Summit@Jul 25 2005, 11:11 AM
I didn't see where it said they were going to attack hospitals.

What ambulance hijacking plot?
That was the title of the Article. :angry:

"Officials Stop California Al Qaeda Training Camp Plotting to Attack Hospitals"

And there were stories about Ambulance security and the use of them to drive bombs into public places.
 
I posted and it got lost...

Suicide bombers with backpack bombs and VBIED's... Israeli's have been dealing with them for a while....

And the idea of an ambulance as a VBIED isn't that new, either.... in israel, the arabs have hidden behind the red cresent several times... either they steal ambulances or have terrorists who happen to be EMS personell.

I belive the first time they raised the national threat level, PaRescue was on a transport in atlantic city.... AC had some info of a plot for an ambulance used as VBIED.... PaRescue's crew got flak from the the PD.... almost didn't make the transport....

Isreal has been dealing with domestic terrorism for years.... the U.K. spent years under the threat of domestic terrorism, but the IRA isn't the threat it was 10 and 20 years ago.... Now it is Muslim extremists as the terrorists.....

WE ARE NEXT.... THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL.... WE NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!

Border security is a joke.... we have how many illegial immigrants coming in from the south EVERY DAY????

Do you ALWAYS lock your truck? Close the bay doors???? You might want to start...... Your rigs can be stolen, but even better..... In Prince Georges' County, Maryland recently, a company went out on a fire call... they came back to find a gunman barricading himself in the chief's office! The guy was having a bad day, and probably wanted to kill himself (suicide by cop)... he got talked out it, and the standoff ended without incident... but it was in the FIREHOUSE.... because they left the doors open.... what if their had been a crew still in the station, who suprised the armed intruder.... more LODD's......

We need to be more secure....

Jon
 
Originally posted by MedicStudentJon@Jul 25 2005, 01:32 PM
I posted and it got lost...

Suicide bombers with backpack bombs and VBIED's... Israeli's have been dealing with them for a while....

And the idea of an ambulance as a VBIED isn't that new, either.... in israel, the arabs have hidden behind the red cresent several times... either they steal ambulances or have terrorists who happen to be EMS personell.

I belive the first time they raised the national threat level, PaRescue was on a transport in atlantic city.... AC had some info of a plot for an ambulance used as VBIED.... PaRescue's crew got flak from the the PD.... almost didn't make the transport....

Isreal has been dealing with domestic terrorism for years.... the U.K. spent years under the threat of domestic terrorism, but the IRA isn't the threat it was 10 and 20 years ago.... Now it is Muslim extremists as the terrorists.....

WE ARE NEXT.... THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL.... WE NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!

Border security is a joke.... we have how many illegial immigrants coming in from the south EVERY DAY????

Do you ALWAYS lock your truck? Close the bay doors???? You might want to start...... Your rigs can be stolen, but even better..... In Prince Georges' County, Maryland recently, a company went out on a fire call... they came back to find a gunman barricading himself in the chief's office! The guy was having a bad day, and probably wanted to kill himself (suicide by cop)... he got talked out it, and the standoff ended without incident... but it was in the FIREHOUSE.... because they left the doors open.... what if their had been a crew still in the station, who suprised the armed intruder.... more LODD's......

We need to be more secure....

Jon
Bay Doors were automatic. You had three minutes to leave, and then they slammed shut.
 
Originally posted by TTLWHKR+Jul 25 2005, 11:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TTLWHKR @ Jul 25 2005, 11:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Summit@Jul 25 2005, 11:11 AM
I didn't see where it said they were going to attack hospitals.

What ambulance hijacking plot?
That was the title of the Article. :angry:

"Officials Stop California Al Qaeda Training Camp Plotting to Attack Hospitals"

And there were stories about Ambulance security and the use of them to drive bombs into public places. [/b][/quote]
If it was in the title it should have been in the article as well. :)
 
Sadly Ambulances in the middle East are already being used for the spreading of terror and killing. I have a video where they had to extricate a live bomb carried in an ambulance that was also occupied by pregnant woman who was claiming to be in labor along with her 6 yr old duaghter, and two men which one claimed to be the womans husband and the other claimed to be a licensed paramedic.

All I have to say it if some muslim nutcase plans on hijacking my rig, he might as well become my second patient, or he can notify the county coroner to be on standby after he blows himself up, Im not cleaning up his mess.

If this were to happen in the US you can bet on police escorts on EVERY rig, and new protocols reagarding to safety of the crew would be implemented.

Kip, are you ready to teach more courses in the near future to defend against mind altered muslims? ;)

-Cap'n
 
Anyone know what the first female islamic suicde bomber did for a living??? She was an EMT with the red crescent society....

Ambulances have been used to move bombs in and out of gaza. They have been blown up when attempting to run Israeli checkpoints... it happens.

Jon
 
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