Called to a 43 yom choking while eating in a restaurant. BLS unit arriving before us update us that it is not a foreign object aspiration but rather a chest pain.
We arrive to find the pt on the BLS unit stretcher. Initial presentation- alert, diaphoretic and clammy. He says he's been having...
Unconscious in a store approx 60 yom.. apparently pt ( who is, according tothe store owner, a homeless) went in and complained he didnt feel well then collapsed. ended up a code (asystole, yea sounds like vf i know) with rosc and attempted cardioversion afterwards (afib with rvr).
I definitely agree with the approach the majority stated here. If alert and oriented I'd probably withhold cardioversion and go to meds first.
And yes for hemodynamiclly stable nct ccbs work very well. Use verapamil quite often.
Nice discussion.
Yes I agree, I would expect him to have relevant family history. But he does have the rest relevant risk factors.
Had an aortic dissection present itself as rca occlusion. These are definitely tricky.
I would measure bp on both hands too.
Minimal intervention approach to this case might not be...
Okay so now im more confident in my inital diagonsis. This guy is in cardiogenic shock due to lmca lesion.
What i would do
Asa o2 heparin put the pads on him and hang a pressor (in my case dopamine ). full throttle to closest stemi center
Bleeding, ascending aortic dissection and such can also...
Psych- pt that is imminent threat to himself/others- chemichal control if necessary.
Isolated trauma-no, nothing we can do here.unless serious pain control is required
General sick call- same^, or patient is hemodynamically unstable, Acute stroke- unless AMS it can be BLS. but depends on...
So basically they tubed him and didnt use capnography?
Paralyzing without capnography...that is some next level stupidity.
And i think that if you rsi, colormetric detector is not enough. Only real time capnography.
I certainly dont think we should give narcan to every resus. And i also dont think cops/fire should. I'd rather have them focused on good chest compressions and aed use.
I would give narcan if i suspect opiate od etiology.
And about the raging narcaned patient
Our protocols state narcan is to be...