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Sorry for taking this out of context, but worker's comp was covered by the school itself when I did the AMR clinical rather than by AMR.

That's what I meant by possibly not being able to answer without actually being in the situation. It's like asking someone what they would do if they were aboard a plane that was about to crash. Until you're there, the question can't be accurately answered, but my question was still...

I did. Again, who said anything about cheerfully giving up your own life for another? The topic of this thread is about the possible conditions under which you might disregard normal scene safety rules in order to provide care. If the patient is at the bottom of a 500' cliff, nobody is...

Nobody said anything about EMS members being less valuable than others or that their lives should be "cheerfully sacrificed for others". Please refer to the first page and read the original post.

Great stories, those...at least the films are, am sure the books are even better, they always are.

That's only because, as infants or children, they haven't yet had the chance to.

I dearly hope that I never learn it all, and I also dearly hope that there is always someone nearby who knows more than I do.

That's true, but the same could be said for getting in the shower. We take a risk by getting out of bed or driving to work/school, but those actions aren't a deliberate move into a known dangerous area so much as a deliberate move into a potentially dangerous area.

I have no doubts that you're not the only one who feels that way.

You do have a very valid point, and I'm not going to try to debate it - I would lose, plain and simple. This thread really isn't intended to start an online argument. It's about the level of risk, if any, you'd find acceptable for patient care.

That's an excellent question, and to be honest, I'm not sure I have a good answer for it, except that I do have a soft spot for kids, much more so than for other age groups. Maybe that's a failing on my part, but that's just how I feel.

I'm not really questioning the value of keeping yourself safe, what I'm wondering about is the point at which your conscience might override it. Just as an example, which is worse: A fractured radius/ulna, or the memory of a lost child that you had a chance of helping?

Ran a search for "scene safety", got over 500 hits, so am posting fresh. Firstly, I know how much we have scene safety drilled into us during training, and why. An injured EMT/Medic is of no use to anyone, and a burden to at least one other on a scene. Secondly, I am not at all interested...

Consider this: If fulfilling your church's obligations (or any other ogranization's needs, for that matter) costs you your job, would the church be there to put a roof over your head and feed you and your family? Sometimes practical issues have to come first. Your faith might not be very...

Yes, and you're not alone in that

When the trial comes up, she won't have a leg to stand on.

<---- Guilty of part of #4, hopefully none of the rest. I read far more than I post about, and am here to learn, not to make myself look grand. My car is no shape for lights or a siren, and I wouldn't put them on it if it were. I've never used the chat, and am very happy with my g/f, so...

Thanks. Glanced briefly at it and printed it to pass on, will read it more thoroughly when time allows

Does the agency you were doing the clinical with, or the school you took your training through, have a CISM/CISD team? Seems like this would be exactly the kind of call they specialize in.

Being misanthropic really isn't the same as being sociopathic.