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    paramedic to rn bridge_excelsior program

    Getting bored today, so I'm back for more punishment. :D Considering that you are a BSN student who is not yet a practicing nurse and has no input whatsoever in the hiring process at any facility, I question how many conversations you've actually had with nurse managers about Excelsior...
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    paramedic to rn bridge_excelsior program

    Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Ignoring misinformed posters is not my strong suit. But, on that note, I'm outta here. ;)
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    paramedic to rn bridge_excelsior program

    No. The individual's desire to learn and comprehend the information, and to continue learning makes the nurse. Plenty of RN's scrape their way through a BSN program and come out barely able to pass the NCLEX, let alone function on the floor. It all depends on the individual. As I said, I've...
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    paramedic to rn bridge_excelsior program

    I did explicitly mention in my previous post that there are some states that do not license Excelsior grads, and even provided a link to a comprehensive list with individual state requirements. I also explicitly mentioned the benefit of exposure to local nurse managers if going through a...
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    paramedic to rn bridge_excelsior program

    It really doesn't hurt my feelings. It's simply ignorance. I'm not going to get into an argument about it. The school does not make the nurse. The individual makes the nurse. I've worked with some LPN's that I've felt were more competent than some BSN-educated RN's. My statement about...
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    paramedic to rn bridge_excelsior program

    Sidenote: I don't even want to get into a BSN vs ADN debate, and I believe that my previous post might open up that pathway. BSN's do have an advantage over ADN's in the job market, and Excelsior only offers the ADN to non-RN's. So, there is that to consider when choosing a nursing program. I...
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    paramedic to rn bridge_excelsior program

    Wow, this thread is on the off-topic fast track. ;) To the OP: Excelsior is a very valid option, but you definitely need to check with your state's BON before enrolling to ensure that it is accepted. In some states, as has been mentioned, you cannot be licensed with your Excelsior degree in...
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    PA test for Paramedic?

    Since a PA is a mid-level provider, I wonder if they would even need to test out? Seems like they could just have the medical director sign off on their skills. In Tennessee, even an RN can be signed off by the medical director and ride a unit as ALS. Not saying that you should be able to...
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    EMT-B & Clinical Support Degree

    6 semester hours of A&P is pretty standard, either as 3 hours A&P I and 3 hours A&P II, or 3 hours of Anatomy and 3 hour of Physiology. Some universities offer it as 4 and 4. But, most universities I've looked at offer it as 3 + 3 (and I've looked at waaay too many different programs across the...
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    EMT-B & Clinical Support Degree

    Well, that makes a lot more sense, only having two of the certs. However, at this time, I still believe that it isn't conducive to your goal of becoming a medic. It certainly wouldn't hurt, but I don't believe that it would help that much in preparing for EMS, aside from what I mentioned...
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    Flying as an EMR?

    Different MPH, but I'll allow it. ^_^
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    EMT-B & Clinical Support Degree

    In skimming through the course listing, I hadn't even noticed that this appears to be a Bachelor's degree program. Didn't pay attention to the actual number of hours for each course. Wow. I had assumed that this was an AAS program! 113-115 hours? Yikes! :wacko:
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    Flying as an EMR?

    Thank you for the information on what a residency is. :rolleyes: I was poking fun at the foolishness of making the statement that one "decent paramedic" is better than five doctors. I really don't care what their specialty is. I'm quite certain that the experience of five physicians, regardless...
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    Flying as an EMR?

    I'll take the five guys with four years of pre-med, four years of medical school, and two to three years of residency over the guy with at best two years of EMS education. Surely, between those five physicians' combined fifty years of training, they can figure something out. :D Now, if you...
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    EMT-B & Clinical Support Degree

    Let me preface my post by saying that no education is wasted, and it's always great to experience different areas of healthcare. Having said that... to be perfectly honest at the risk of sounding rude, I wouldn't waste my time on this program. It looks like you get a lot of certifications for a...
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    Replacing EMS with nursing revisited

    Anyone who has worked alongside medics, RN's, and even MD's has plenty of stories about "that guy", who is an exception and not the rule for the profession.
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    Know of a Calif. RN-to-EMT/B bridge school?

    This may not be exactly what you're looking for, and I'm not familiar with California requirements, but Creighton University Medical Center in Omaha, NE has a 1-week Nurse-to-EMTB program that allows you to sit for NREMT-B. http://www.creighton.edu/ems/courses/phcemt/index.php It isn't...
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    Replacing EMS with nursing revisited

    In all reality, for someone who's had a toothache for the past two weeks, the toothache is probably just a toothache. Unless there's an abscess, there probably isn't any emergent condition going on. But this person is going to demand to go to the ED, unless you're able to write and fill a script...
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    Replacing EMS with nursing revisited

    ^^^ +1 for this.
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    Replacing EMS with nursing revisited

    None of the above. The RN is lacking the specialty education that the paramedic gets for the entire length of his/her program. The larger majority of what the RN learns simply does not apply to prehospital scenarios. Yes, an RN can be trained to do prehospital. An RN has the prerequisite...
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