3rd Rider ==> Primary Provider

emt105

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From October 2015 until this month (September 2016), I rode the medic at my volunteer station as a EMT-B secondary provider also known as a "3rd rider". This was my first EMS experience outside of EMT class. I usually do 4 shifts per month as this is a volunteer pursuit and I already work full time as an RN. I rode with two primary providers, either 2 EMT-B's or one EMT-B and one EMT-P. It was an awesome experience. While I'm already a nurse, I got to hone my skills for taking blood pressures, assessing lung sounds, mental status, providing O2, etc. I felt very comfortable and didn't have any issue as I had help whenever I needed it. Last month I did a shift with EMS Lieutenant and at each call, she just stepped back and let me do everything. She was very pleased with my performance as a 3rd rider, so they decided to clear me as a primary or "2nd rider". And while I was reluctant at first because I wasn't sure I had enough experience, I accepted the offer.

The calls I'm used to include patients who have some type of medical problem or are in a nursing home or urgent care clinic.
The very first call i had as a 2nd went awful. It was a trauma call (those calls have been rare in my experience in my jurisdiction) where a patient had fallen and had a contusion on their back. When we arrived on scene, the location's private EMS staff had already backboarded the patient. However, the 1st rider told me to get the spider straps so we can secure the patient onto the backboard and place them on the stretcher. I struggled to find the spider straps in the trauma compartment of the medic, but after that call I now know exactly where they are. My The EMS supervisor was there and noticed how flustered and nervous I was and I think was joking when he said "I'm going to call your instructor" (he actually was one of two of my instructors!). My first rider was super awesome to let everyone at the scene know, "guys it's his very first call, give him a break." I had never consulted with medical direction before, but in this trauma case we needed to. I had no idea how to do it, so the supervisor was nice enough to do it. However, I now carry instructions on how to consult with a script I wrote on what to say.

In the end, I'm just so upset with myself that I got so nervous. We had two more calls that shift after that... one for a medication-error in a nursing home where a patient got too much opiates (no narcan was necessary) and then a fall in a nursing home where a patient had a laceration on their head. Both of those I sailed through and did everything correctly in those calls with no anxiety.

I know from experience when I first became a nurse a little over a year ago, that when I first started working that job off orientation, I was super nervous all the time because I was still somewhat unfamiliar with the job and didn't know what to expect. However, after some time, I actually became the complete opposite of nervous because I gained the confidence that came with work experience. Even when I couldn't anticipate things happening (you can't always do that in healthcare), I could anticipate how I would respond to help the patient.

So, my question is that given what happened to me as a nurse at first and my later success, should I anticipate the same thing happening in EMS? I'm really leaning towards saying yes. The only other question is how do calm my rookie anxiety in the meantime? In my opinion, the answer is not to keep going to EMT skills review courses (I went to 2 this past year). The only way to learn this stuff, is to just be out in the field and to JUST DO IT! Agreed?
 

medichopeful

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So, my question is that given what happened to me as a nurse at first and my later success, should I anticipate the same thing happening in EMS? I'm really leaning towards saying yes. The only other question is how do calm my rookie anxiety in the meantime? In my opinion, the answer is not to keep going to EMT skills review courses (I went to 2 this past year). The only way to learn this stuff, is to just be out in the field and to JUST DO IT! Agreed?

Relax and give yourself a break! From what I've read, you've done 3 calls as a full member of the crew. The first one didn't go too well, but the other two did. I'd say you're on the right track.

We're all human, it's natural to get nervous. The first few shifts you do as a full crew member will of course be nerve-wracking, and you won't perform perfectly. EMS and nursing share a lot of similarities, but they are different fields. Once you get past the nerves, I'm sure you'll do great!

Skills review sessions are great, but you're right in that the best way to learn is to do. That being said, you should continue taking classes. However, the classes shouldn't be review: they should be new material.

The best way to calm rookie anxiety is to remember that it's not your emergency, and to continue running calls and keep learning. Like I said, it's natural to be nervous in the beginning. Hell, I still get nervous with certain types of patients.

You'll do fine my friend. Relax :)

Any other questions just let us know, and welcome to the forum! Hope this helps!
 

Vizior

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Nerves are completely natural. You had experiences, you critically evaluated your performance with intentions to improve, which is more than a lot of new EMTs and medics do. Honestly, I'm significantly more worried about the new providers that DON'T experience any nervousness.
 

SeeNoMore

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I still have calls where I mess something up and expect to (sadly) for years to come. Don't worry so much. Sounds like you are on the right track with trying not repeat the same mistakes if possible.
 

Bullets

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Wait, you guys still use spider strap? YOU STILL HAVE SPIDER STRAPS?

Otherwise, what those guys said, youre doing fine
 

EpiEMS

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OP, you didn't do anything wrong -- it's good to question your performance, but it sounds like you did just fine!

Now, on the other hand:
However, the 1st rider told me to get the spider straps so we can secure the patient onto the backboard and place them on the stretcher.
You guys are still using backboards for spinal "immobilization"?
 
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