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Thats my point. The emt's wouldn't know.

Depends on how many minutes you are talking. I guess I wouldn't be happy to have a family member in a potentially lethal rythym sitting with the emt's while waiting for als that, in my opinion of course, should have been dispatched initially.

I would think as long as there is a record of it somewhere, it could be found. It may be hard to found out the details but, the record exists. There is no hiding from Big Brother:P

The point I am trying to make is why should the pt have to wait longer? This job is filled with "minutes." From response times, scene times, 911 to balloon times, and on and on. To say "only a few minutes more" is really a cop out by the system.

Let me be more clear. If ALS shows up and the "arm cramp" complaint actually turns out to be cardiac, the medics are there and do their thing. If BLS was dispatched, the pt now has to wait longer for the ALS rig to arrive. The answer from many basics will then be just to haul azz to the ED and...

I find this system odd. Shouldn't the medic do the assessment and triage down to BLS if that is what is needed?

Not necessarily. You can be arrested, investigated, then released with no charges. LE arrests then gives recommendations on charges to a DA which then charges you officially with the crime. To the OP, not convicted or not charged? Big difference. To say you "have not been convicted" sounds like...

An arrest may or may not show up depending on how in depth the background is. There is a record of your arrest, however.

The "B" training is too basic. And the class is easy thus the reason there are so many. It seem's backward's but, I'd like to see an advanced type of emt. We used to have EMT II (which was eliminated in favor of "P") which had limited als capability. That way a basic would do IFT and the...

I think this topic coded long ago;)

Lagunitas is pretty good. If you can find Stone IPA, do try. I am not a big IPA fan either but that stuff is gooooood. Oh, and thanks for making the name pure awesomeness :)

Heck yea! I don't turn down beer. I had the name first, FYI :P

Nope. Thats just one step above staying at a Holiday Inn Express:lol: I think a volly should count as you are actually "working" albeit for free or little compensation.

So you have been an EMT since you were 15? Interesting. Didn't think one could be 15, an EMT, and work on an ambulance.

So, are you 20 years old or what? Is your "15 years of experience" bullsh%t or not? Is your BS degree real or is that BS as well? BTW, how did you attain a degree when your writing, spelling, and grammar skills are so poor? All questions inquiring minds are dying to know. By the way you answer...

UH OH................:rofl: And here I thought I was done with this thread. Its gettin' good now!

DrParasite, Too much to quote there so let me hit some highlights; Nope, no degree. I do have some AP, chem, etc from several years ago when I was going to do nursing. As far as experience and "seeing the same," yea, in 20 years working in two of CA busiest counties, I have seen a few things...

For sure. Most is just a "band-aid" to get them to the ED in the best possible condition. Maybe I misunderstood your point. I guess mine is, the smartest EMT can still do less than the dumbest medic, if that makes sense.

Agreed.

I got his point. Mine is that knowing a lot does not translate to being able to do a lot. My wife is a RN and know's much more than I do but, I can do more than she can. If that make's sense.