Holy Mother of god... found the perfect jump kit for the whackers

[Cameron]

10 mL is what I use. Are you a basic student?

CFR Student.
Do classes in high school count too? Haha, Biomedical Science if so.

As a disclaimer I was never a military medic, nor was I ever in combat, but just looking at the logistics of it:

Ill ask on of the HM3's (Corpsman for Navy) Tonight when I talk to them. Find out if they do or do not, most likely not.

 

[Aidey]

I wasn't aware that there were people out there that took this zombie stuff that seriously, I had to look the term up but "PAW scenario" is "Post apocalyptic world scenario". Yeash.

 

[TransportJockey]

I wasn't aware that there were people out there that took this zombie stuff that seriously, I had to look the term up but "PAW scenario" is "Post apocalyptic world scenario". Yeash.

The other term is EOTWAWKI or End of the World as We Know It. Both are pretty common on the gun forums I hang out on Although I just started looking around Zombie Hunters...

 

[SanDiegoEmt7]

I assumed that was a military guy's pack... then I realized what forum I was on.

 

[ffemt8978]

Hey, there's no reason to criticize this guy. If there ever is a major disaster in his area, he's provided a great cache of medical supplies for any trained persons willing to step over his dead body and take it.

Post of the thread right there!!!!

I'm thinking the DEA may want to have a chat with this guy and the docs that "legally prescribed" him some of those meds.

 

[rwik123]

He'll probably try to put it through the nose knowing him. I mean he wouldn't know better, no medical knowledge. ^_^

and neither do you

nasal intubation along with endotracheal and even crics are viable options depending on the situation

yes this guys someone of a tool for keeping all this gear without the training, but he prob has more knowledge than you and your laughing at him when you dont know the difference between a NPA and an ET tube

like someone said, it'd be useful in a disaster.. but minus all the ALS crap and more basic first aid material

 

[TransportJockey]

On the plus side, that vial of MS is worth a LOT of money

 

[fast65]

and neither do you

nasal intubation along with endotracheal and even crics are viable options depending on the situation

yes this guys someone of a tool for keeping all this gear without the training, but he prob has more knowledge than you and your laughing at him when you dont know the difference between a NPA and an ET tube

like someone said, it'd be useful in a disaster.. but minus all the ALS crap and more basic first aid material

Was it necessary to be rude to the kid? Don't think so.

Oh yeah Cameron, weren't you the kid that posted an intro thread last week, you're still I'm high school, right?

 

[JPINFV]

and neither do you

nasal intubation along with endotracheal and even crics are viable options depending on the situation

yes this guys someone of a tool for keeping all this gear without the training, but he prob has more knowledge than you and your laughing at him when you dont know the difference between a NPA and an ET tube

like someone said, it'd be useful in a disaster.. but minus all the ALS crap and more basic first aid material

Here's the problem. In a disaster situation, how many people are going to be available to oversee an intubated patient (including, in his case, manually bagging the patient) as well as have the equipment for short term care? Suctioning through a V-Vac is going to get tiring fast and then there's things like preventing or treating pneumonia which, in that situation, the patient WILL get. The reality is in the situation where those are useful, the patients are already dead. It's just a question of if the patient will die NOW, or die 5 days from now while sucking up limited group resources. When the zombie apocalypse comes, I'd rather have a 9 mm through the temple than an ET tube.

 

[JPINFV]

I'm thinking the DEA may want to have a chat with this guy and the docs that "legally prescribed" him some of those meds.

I think it's going to largely depend on the patient-physician relationship. My father get's a bottle of Vicodin every year or two and uses it PRN. When he kills the bottle, he goes back and gets more. If it's a case of several physicians providing opioid prescriptions or the patient going through them fast, then there's a problem. 1 vial? Meh.

 

[rwik123]

Here's the problem. In a disaster situation, how many people are going to be available to oversee an intubated patient (including, in his case, manually bagging the patient) as well as have the equipment for short term care? Suctioning through a V-Vac is going to get tiring fast and then there's things like preventing or treating pneumonia which, in that situation, the patient WILL get. The reality is in the situation where those are useful, the patients are already dead. It's just a question of if the patient will die NOW, or die 5 days from now while sucking up limited group resources. When the zombie apocalypse comes, I'd rather have a 9 mm through the temple than an ET tube.

very true.. maybe its just the "coolness" factor by having a few Et tubes and a laryngoscope with him

the thing that i dont get is the IV stuff.. how is going to calculate the flow rates ect with no prior knowledge, even a correct IV stick

 

[EMSLaw]

very true.. maybe its just the "coolness" factor by having a few Et tubes and a laryngoscope with him

the thing that i dont get is the IV stuff.. how is going to calculate the flow rates ect with no prior knowledge, even a correct IV stick

The laryngoscope is at least useful in the case of an airway obstruction, when removing the obstruction with Magill forceps is effective definitive care. Though I'm not sure he was carrying the forceps, or would know how to use them. Not like any of it is particularly complicated.

 

[fortsmithman]

I think the dude has more supplies than some services.

 

[EMT11KDL]

Am I the only one thinking that he missed a very important part of his kit! Where is the pocket AED??? But he did say he plans on getting it.

But wow, not sure if everyone saw this, 56 thousand dollars to make this kit. I wish I had the type of money to just throw away on something that I would NEVER use. Wow, his kit is worth more money, than I make in a year!

 

[EMT11KDL]

I think the dude has more supplies than some services.

this kit alone cost over 50 percent of my volli agency yearly budget..

 

[SanDiegoEmt7]

Here's the problem. In a disaster situation, how many people are going to be available to oversee an intubated patient (including, in his case, manually bagging the patient) as well as have the equipment for short term care? Suctioning through a V-Vac is going to get tiring fast and then there's things like preventing or treating pneumonia which, in that situation, the patient WILL get. The reality is in the situation where those are useful, the patients are already dead. It's just a question of if the patient will die NOW, or die 5 days from now while sucking up limited group resources. When the zombie apocalypse comes, I'd rather have a 9 mm through the temple than an ET tube.

I think what you are getting at is covered by these:

Rule 5: No Attachments

Rule 17: Don't Be a Hero

 

[MrBrown]

Now Brown knows who to get a spare Thomas Pack off of

That is just a wee bit worrying come on Brown says he has a tactical laryngascope set but no gum elastic bougie? WTF?

 

[EMT11KDL]

I'd rather have a 9 mm through the temple than an ET tube.

I have a problem with this. Can we change this to either a 50 cal or Shotgun with slugs, .44 mag. something done those lines i would like a lot better than a 9 mm.

After a guy get shot 36 times by 9 mm rounds, i decided right than and there NEVER will i own a 9 mm.

 

[ffemt8978]

But wow, not sure if everyone saw this, 56 thousand dollars to make this kit. I wish I had the type of money to just throw away on something that I would NEVER use. Wow, his kit is worth more money, than I make in a year!

Now stop to consider that the original post in that thread was in 2008, which means that some of that stuff has expired and needs to be replaced.

 

[EMT11KDL]

Now stop to consider that the original post in that thread was in 2008, which means that some of that stuff has expired and needs to be replaced.

I dont want to think about that. it just makes me even more sad about how much money he has to build this kit, and I see many departments across the United States including my own, having to fight for grants to get supplies, and upgrades of there current equipment. Also, to be able to update everyones training on a yearly basis.