Is the Fentanyl Problem Overstated?

Remi

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What?!? You mean the media has been sensationalizing an issue and law enforcement (and other parts of government) has been taking advantage of the public ignorance and fear in order to play up their status as heroes and increase their funding and power?? How novel a script.

I remember saying on this forum and others that the whole “it touched me and my body immediately shut down” and “if you even walk into a building that has carfentanil in it you’ll die immediately” thing was absolute BS and the entire threat was overblown, and each time being told by people who don’t even know what the word pharmacodynamics means that I had no idea what I was talking about.

Good article, BTW.
 

CCCSD

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Interesting....since there are equally as many articles and instructional alerts regarding exposure to, and the resulting documented medical issues, to it.

So...if it’s that false, then BBP exposure is also a myth, right?
 

DrParasite

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Has the news media pushed bad info on fentanyl’s danger to fire, police & EMS?

BTW, here is the CDC statement on fentanyl: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/fentanyl/risk.html and https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/fentanyl/healthcareprevention.html

And I know the CDC aren't cops, but they have some smart people working there Fentanyl Exposure Risks for Law Enforcement and Emergency Response Workers

And the DEA recommendation: https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2016/06/10/dea-warning-police-and-public-fentanyl-exposure-kills

Part of the issue likely comes from bad information coming out of law enforcement, where cops are exposed to narcotics, and "saved" by their fellows brothers in blue, who administer narcan.... regardless of whether they were in any danger, or needed narcan in the first place.

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2018/06/26/opioid-antidote-saves-alameda-sheriffs-officers-lives/
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/I-Was-Dying-Alameda-County-Detective-Breaks-Silence-on-Fentanyl-Poisoning-494294131.html
https://www.jems.com/articles/pt/2018/07/two-alameda-county-sheriff-s-investigators-survive-potentially-lethal-fentanyl-exposure.html

So it really boils down to, are you going to believe the reports that come from law enforcement, who have given it to their fellow responders and "saved their lives," or from the medical toxicologists, who are experts in this field, who say it's not needed based on sound medical science?
 

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I remember back in ‘84 while sitting in a Paramedic Base Station meeting. The MD (Stanford no less), made the statement that Ricin “wasn’t a threat and the stories about it are bull ****...”

Glad I listened to the LE and Intel guys...
 

Remi

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I remember back in ‘84 while sitting in a Paramedic Base Station meeting. The MD (Stanford no less), made the statement that Ricin “wasn’t a threat and the stories about it are bull ****...”

Glad I listened to the LE and Intel guys...
Except that we know infinitely more about fentanyl and it analogues now than they knew about ricin in the early 1980's.
 
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