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There have been no personal attacks. I explained what would happen in court. I personally don't see any rage, name calling, or anything outside of an honest debate here.

Chest trauma? Where do you see this? I only see it where everyone else is jumping to conclusions. I will give on the rigor but it didn't start until after treatment was started and noticed it "starting" after attempting to establish an airway. That is the only obvious sign of death but a...

Yes you would... First off it would put your credibility into question and bring doubt to anything else you testify to or that you have in the report. And if you made a determination to withhold treatment based on an MOI that included a rate of speed that you assumed, and there were other...

It's scary that he read the vehicle landed on her chest when it was stated in the original post that you cannot tell exactly how. Everyone on here is assuming the arrest is related to the trauma but I pointed out the possibility of respiratory arrest which is by all means a reasonable doubt and...

Where did you see high rate of speed? If you have this in your report and the officer has "unknown speed" in his report as it says in the original post and it went to court you would get f'ing hammered on the stand.

This is scary. I do let me emotions get somewhat involved in calls on children, and they should as long as it doesn't interfere with treatment, but my passion for this topic is for this thread specifically for the reason I just showed, and has been flooded in this thread, jumping to...

Cause of arrest: you are 100% sure based on the information given? You have no doubt at all that it was not airway compromise? Obvious signs of death: can you show me where this is listed in any protocol? I do agree with you about the possibility of consulting with medical direction...

There is nothing to indicate the possibilities you mention, that would require diagnostics in the ER. This is somewhat emotional but still based on information in the original post...see more below. 99% is in adults, science also says that children recover from severe injuries that are fatal...

You are correct that the patient's prognosis is poor; however, it is not our place to play GOD and decide whether or not to work this child...According to the information in the original post, this patient still had a chance, minimal, yes, but still a chance...that child is someone's baby, and...

I'm going against the grain here but I would have worked the pt as the OP did...and to be honest, I don't see how/why some of the people that posted in this topic are in EMS. We are here to HELP people, so do it, even if you think the outcome is poor, there still is a chance. I really hope...

Some programs that I have heard good things about are Swedish medical center, Aurora community college, Aims community college in Greeley, and I think St. Anthony's has a program. I know several people that went thru and are going thru Aims, they have some classes online with labs on the...

I have, the day after Christmas last year. I work at a beef processing plant and got a call to the production floor for a man down. Two shocks delivered, EMS arrived and put the monitor on him and he was still in vfib. He survived and is currently in cardiac rehab.

The community college that I went to for my EMT-B has classes that I am taking for IV, which includes phlebotomy, and an EKG class which includes a 60hr internship.

Hi all. I live in northern Colorado, I just got my EMT-B at the end of the summer. I'm 39 and come from an engineering background, own a business doing industrial electrical controls, and working toward a surgical tech degree.