Geriexpert
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i was wondering if companies have screwed over employees as they schedule them for only 24s?
working 24s
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akflightmedic
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Yes.
And companies have screwed over those who only work 8, 10, 12 and 16 hour shifts and every other configuration.
What specifically is your question or concern regarding the 24?
And companies have screwed over those who only work 8, 10, 12 and 16 hour shifts and every other configuration.
What specifically is your question or concern regarding the 24?
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Geriexpert
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I have heard many cut payments because of sleep
but
was looking for a general overview of what to expect
to prepare for
or just be aware of
but
was looking for a general overview of what to expect
to prepare for
or just be aware of
Drax
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Maybe, but don't get comfortable with the concept of sleeping working for a private, cause it doesn't happen.
TransportJockey
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I work for a county service and do 24s. We get paid for all 24 hours a shift.
Jim37F
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I worked for a Private company in LA that was mostly 24s (woth some 12s). How much sleep you got was entirely dependent on your area, i.e. my station just outside of Compton was usually running most nights (and stations in Lynwood and Carson were busier) but stations in Palos Verses or Malibu or Clabassas were usually assured a full nights sleep.
They did have a policy (somehow legal under CA's convoluted laws) that if we got an uninterrupted 5 hours of sleep between 11pm and 7am the next morning, we'd only get paid for 22 hrs instead of the full 24.
I also worked for an FD as a single role ambulance operator, and regardless we got paid the full 24 no matter if you ran 1 or 15 calls.
They did have a policy (somehow legal under CA's convoluted laws) that if we got an uninterrupted 5 hours of sleep between 11pm and 7am the next morning, we'd only get paid for 22 hrs instead of the full 24.
I also worked for an FD as a single role ambulance operator, and regardless we got paid the full 24 no matter if you ran 1 or 15 calls.
akflightmedic
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I have always stood by and only worked for those who had the following policy: If you are not at home, in bed, free to drink, or do whatever you want...with absolutely no radio, pager or concern over a phone call to activate you...then you will/must be paid for every hour you are on "my job site".
NomadicMedic
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I work for a hospital based service and we work 24s as well. We get paid MORE after 7pm. And yes, we get paid for all 24 hours.
hometownmedic5
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This is my policy also and I will not work for an organization that doesnt agree. Quite simply, if my time is not my own to with as I feel, then I am on the clock and require full compensation at the agreed upon wage.
VFlutter
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We get paid for the whole 24 however 8hr is considered "sleep time" which does not accrue towards overtime if not on flights. If we do get a call during those sleep hours we get time and a half and if we fly over a couple hours the whole sleep time accrues.
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My service took 24’s away from us and I miss them dearly.
TransportJockey
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We're about to lose them and take a pay cut
Yes it does.
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I run 24's, paid the full shift if I no hit (Has happened actually) or run all day.
DrParasite
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Mine too. If I can't be drinking at work, than you better be paying me my hourly wage.
Although I will say that in the county I live in, the guys who work on 24s on the ambulance get paid less per hour than the guys who work 12s, who make less per hour than the office people who work 8s. Everyone makes the same amount per week, but your hourly rate (including build in OT) is less. So if you pick up an OT shift on a 12 hour truck, and your regularly work on a 24, your OT rate will be based on your 24 hour hourly rate. Suffice it to say, I don't work on an ambulance in the county that I live in (and this was one of the reasons).
As much as I like working 24s (when I get paid for all 24 hours), I will say that they aren't good for busy systems. They can be awesome schedule wise, but after you have been up for 20 straight hours running calls, you will wish you only worked 12s.
I am also not a fan of the sleep time variances. One of the reasons I chose my employer is because they switched away from the standard no pay from 11-7 unless you go out and time and a half if out more than 3 hours to paid straight through.
I make a lower hourly wage because of it but in the end It is the highest paying service in our area (by over 10k a year). Like others, if I cant have a beer or sleep in my own bed, then I feel I should be paid.
I make a lower hourly wage because of it but in the end It is the highest paying service in our area (by over 10k a year). Like others, if I cant have a beer or sleep in my own bed, then I feel I should be paid.
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Often these kinds of things are passed down, but never properly cited. So, in the sake of education, here it is.
It's actually from the Fair Labors Standards Act, which is a federal law.