Vomiting Blood During Full Arrest
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It was pretty bad. The gurney, backboard, and ground were all covered in it.
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You could request a follow-up from the hospital, if you wanted to.
It could be interesting if it isn't something sort of expected (like esophageal varices, etc.).
It could be interesting if it isn't something sort of expected (like esophageal varices, etc.).
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This^^^, perhaps a Mallory-Weiss tear from the trauma induced by the CPR performed? Idk, either way how new was your medic that they had "no clue"?
He seemed pretty experienced. It was a county fire guy, and he seemed to know what he was doing. But he said he had no clue what that was.
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*Snicker snicker*
In all seriousness, though, esophageal varices, Boerhaave sydrome, etc. are covered in the EMT curriculum...
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Bleed came before arrest?
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Great, now that you even mentioned that we have to sterilize this page. Nice.
Nothing before the collapse, according the family. Fine one minute, dead the next. It happened after about 10-15 minutes of compressions.
That's what I was thinking.
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Nothing you could see.
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Why do people call it a "full arrest" rather than "cardiac arrest"? Is there such a thing as a partial arrest (respiratory maybe)?
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:shrugs: That's what everyone around here calls them. Might as well question why some people call them Traffic Collisions vs Traffic Accidents vs Motor Vehicle Collisions or Rigs vs Bus vs Truck (even in a Type II vanbulance)
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It's an ambulance, you're just wrong if you call it something else...
For the OP, like everyone else has suggested a ruptured varices comes to mind.
Because if he was intubated. It sound like the medic, and just because he is FD... same clown different costume.....if he was tubed then it sound like there could have been some trauma caused by the intubation
If u remember a show called AIRWOLF?
The main Actor was riding his motorcycle in Malibu and crashed.
He was intubated by LAFD medics who severed his vocal chords and left him unable to speak.
I would follow up with receiving facility.
If u remember a show called AIRWOLF?
The main Actor was riding his motorcycle in Malibu and crashed.
He was intubated by LAFD medics who severed his vocal chords and left him unable to speak.
I would follow up with receiving facility.
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Torrential bleeding caused by DL and intubation would have to be in the circumstance of a completely unavoidable anomaly somewhere in the airway. Leaving aside the miniscule odds that what is described was because of a traumatic intubation, even with tumor or airway disruption, the bleeding doesn't look like the OP's patient.
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He seemed pretty experienced. It was a county fire guy, and he seemed to know what he was doing. But he said he had no clue what that was.
Good for him. There is a lot of narrative fallacy in medicine. "He was purple from the nipple line up so he must have had a massive PE." I respect people who say they don't know unless they actually know.