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NREMT new patch survey

Discussion in 'NREMT' started by webster44, May 24, 2010.

  1. webster44

    webster44 New Member

    EMS Training:
    EMT-Intermediate
    Got an email from NREMT asking to fill out survey.

    Here's the link - not sure if it was a special link for me or if it will work for everyone



    http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22ANDMMGFYU

    I'm sure most people got this link themselves from NREMT, but what are your thoughts?

    I like the idea of silver for the advanced
  2. EMTinNEPA

    EMTinNEPA Guess who's back...

    All the patch designs would be great if they didn't say "certified".
  3. Pneumothorax

    Pneumothorax New Member

    Location:
    IL
    EMS Training:
    EMT-Basic
    they need to get rid of that rocker.

    just put all the words on the patch
  4. wolfwyndd

    wolfwyndd New Member

    Location:
    Springfield, OH
    EMS Training:
    EMT-Intermediate
    Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of the rocker either. I wasn't thrilled with the word 'certified' either, but the more I thought about it the more I'm ok with it. We sign up to take a class (or test) and we're REGISTERED. We actually take the class (or test) and pass, we're 'certified.' I think it sounds better to be certified then registered.
  5. JPINFV

    JPINFV Gadfly

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    ^
    You're also a canidate when addmitted to a program that leads to a degree.

    -JPINFV, DO(c)

    (On a side note, that postnominal is so wrong for so many reasons that I just had to include it here).
  6. Linuss

    Linuss Active Member

    Location:
    DFW
    It's the National REGISTRY, not the National CERTIFACTORY(???)

    Certified just looks stupid.
  7. JPINFV

    JPINFV Gadfly

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    Linuss, it's worse than that. This move only serves to support patch factories...


    What do you mean a different type of patch factory?
  8. bstone

    bstone New Member

    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    EMS Training:
    EMT-Intermediate
    The Registry has been trying for several years to say "The Nation's EMS Certification" and pushing that hard. This is just another way for them to do it.
  9. TraprMike

    TraprMike Member

    Location:
    MN
    If the NREMT wants to call us Certified, we are then certified.. They are the group that oversees us. they can call us what they want.

    I think all of our patches should have "Ambulance" on them. that would separate us from those miss prissy, ER people.. We are the ones rolling around in the ditch in waist deep water. we are the ones that get woke up with the tones (and our spouses). We are Ambulance staff...
  10. JPINFV

    JPINFV Gadfly

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  11. TraprMike

    TraprMike Member

    Location:
    MN
    ;) ,

    EDit:
    cer·ti·fy (sûrt-f)
    v. cer·ti·fied, cer·ti·fy·ing, cer·ti·fies
    v.tr.
    1.
    a. To confirm formally as true, accurate, or genuine.
    b. To guarantee as meeting a standard

    To Guarantee as Meeting a Standard= this is what we are doing. meeting a standard of the NREMT

    when I think of being registered,, that is signing up for something. I registered for this board, I registered at the big table at the last EMS conference. I did not register to become an EMT, I studied and passed many tests and quizzes because of long hrs spent in front of a big orange book.
    By taking that online final test. I let the NREMT know that I have met their standards to become certified EMT-B.
    On a different board, skywarnonline.com, those whackers attend an hour long power point with free cookies and pop at the end of the presentation, and call themselves "Certified".. and SkyWarn even offers patches/stickers that say "Certified SkyWarn".. wow... talk about feeding the trolls..

    I am proud to say that I have taken the time and energy to become certified as an EMT !! that lets people know that I had to sacrifice somewhere along the line to earn my patch..
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  12. JPINFV

    JPINFV Gadfly

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    Did the image not show up? It shows up for me... [Original reply by TraprMike] showed photobucket's 404 error picture]
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  13. I don't like the "candidate" title, I think "Graduate Student of Medicine" sounds much better.

    Seems sort of false/whacker to put MD after my name before I earn it and qualify it with a (c)

    I know the PhD people do it all the time. It is just not my thing. The only reason I put my school title here is because I am tired of being told "I don't know something because I am just a medic."

    Of course I still get told I don't know something about medicine, just not as often.
  14. I also voted to get rid of the rocker and switch the paramedic to the silver, because it looks much better than the gold.
  15. TraprMike

    TraprMike Member

    Location:
    MN
    yea showed up on your post, just not on my quote.. good one...

    Ihope you all can see my point about being certifed/registered.. maybe registered is the new modern way of saying certifed.. but, i'm kind of old school. say what you mean.. and more importantly in personal life, Mean what you Say !!
    Miike
  16. JPINFV

    JPINFV Gadfly

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    Oh, I definitely agree. I just see some humor with DO students since it spells "Doc."
  17. JPINFV

    JPINFV Gadfly

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    I'm just not entirely sure if you're serious about the hyperbole regarding being in a ditch in waist deep water, hence the picture and why I only quoted a specific part of your post and not all of it.
  18. thatJeffguy

    thatJeffguy New Member

    Who cares?

    I know it's almost blasphemy to suggest in todays PowerPoint society that some things might be more important than uniform color, newness of pager, flashiness and frequently of lights, and god help us if we don't have a new patch... but perhaps they could think of a method to keep all of the uneducated, fat whacker types off ambulances? Or to open the field only to those interested in patients and medicine, not ding-dings and woo-woo's on the big truck, or a raise in their department of "pour water on hot stuff".

    /misanthropy
  19. I can see your point and largely agree.

    But I think it is a bit more nuanced.

    Let's face it, sewing a patch on a unform shirt doesn't really look geat, but it is a tradition that is not going away anytime soon.

    Since it is hanging around, it is important that it confers some level of provider satisfaction. There is lots to complain about in EMS, little that is going to change, and whatever you can do in the way of creating comraderie/pride or harmlessly stroking egos a little may go a long way to slow the brain drain in EMS until solutions are forced upon it by outsiders.

    (It is clear those in EMS can't solve the problems or it would have been done already)

    As for the "fat whacker types" Because the ability for humans to have easy access to food has outpaced our biological evolution to determine need or efficently metabolize it, "Fat" is going to be the norm across the modern world for the next several generations at least. Might as well get used to it, one of the predominant diseases of modern man. (I don't like it, but I cannot stop wind nor tide, I'll fight another battle that can be won)

    There have always been whackers, there always will be. In every profession, not just EMS. You should see some of the crap my classmates get, it would rival any volunteer fire/ems person and costs easily the same.

    From medicine, to nursing, to various therapy fields, and even non medical ones, even on this board, the best people EMS has to offer move on or have a "real" full tme job not related to EMS. (like firefighting)

    I don't eally care for the messenger, but the message is true:
    "You don't go to war with the army you would like. You go to war with the army you have."
    -Donald Rumsfeld

    I constantly see an increase in undesirable people entering EMS, but for reasons identified ad naseum, EMS can no longer attact good people. Good people used to sign up figuring they could change things from the inside, having seen the futility of it, not only did they leave, but now people like them don't even consider applying to begin with.

    US EMS doesn't have the collective will to adapt to modern needs and realities, as such, you are watching the reality series in real time, it is being marginalized.
  20. webster44

    webster44 New Member

    EMS Training:
    EMT-Intermediate
    I like both the rocker and colors

    When I think of these patches I think in terms of how useful they are in conveying who we are to essentially two groups of people.

    Emergency Medical Professionals and Laypeople

    A layperson would most likely infer that the individual wearing a patch is involved with medicine of some sort. Maybe even that the person is an EMT. they will not notice NREMT on the patch or even understand what that it. But they most likely will glance at the rocker and be able to identify the persons level

    For other professionals the color coding will offer a quick recognition of that individuals certified level.

    In terms of wording - Not sure If i like certified. But, its the most accurate choice.

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