Ambulnz Health, LLC (Los Angeles County)

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so as an uber employee you are exempt from OT and DT, etc...i wonder if they are just going to make everyone a 1099 employee.
 

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so as an uber employee you are exempt from OT and DT, etc...i wonder if they are just going to make everyone a 1099 employee.
Well the guy over there was told $17 something an hour BUT hes not getting that. It's again smoke and mirrors. Wheel you in and than make excuses. Any impulse employees want to fill in?

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Hey Guys, I work for Ambulnz (Impulse, Aegis, + Ameripride) so just chiming in again here so it's fully transparent. We do pay higher hourly rates as a guarantee (OT, DT, Ect) but it's just as a safety net as our EMTs are able to make much more on our per call model (we pay the higher of the two) @ $30/call. All tracked through our technology, which also allows our crew to run way more efficient. Our CEO is a paramedic and has seen first hand all the smoke mirrors + BS promises that's gone on in the industry, it's one of the primary principals for founding the company and taking on the competition. Our goal is to disrupt the space, stay very profitable but also provide opportunities to get compensated accordingly and continuously improve along the way. Anyways, if interested in discussing just give us a shout. Thanks! Gavin


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So $30 a call, no hourly rate just like the old days lol

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30 per call despite the call being paid by the patient's insurance? or other payor source? It would seem that a company operating like this would have to have a solid base of customers with good payor sources. What if the call was a dry run but the crew made it on scene? 30 for BLS, ALS, and CCT?
 

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It's whatever is higher of the two. Either the hourly base or per call. We're seeing the team averaging ~10+ calls a day and stoked to see it working.


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so as an uber employee you are exempt from OT and DT, etc...i wonder if they are just going to make everyone a 1099 employee.
They can't do 1099. It will never fly with IRS. In order to do 1099 you must not be controled by employer, told where to go, whom to pick up. You must be using your own tools etc. Basically that will never ever fly. Regarding $30 a call, that might actually drop you below minimum wage(which would be illegal). It all depends what calls they have you run, if it's the call where you need to wait and return and waiting for few hours, your hourly rate is dropping like a hammer. Basically it don't sounds as good as they are trying to make. They for sure will never drive AMR out of town, if anything they will likely sell and run way before they can get an impact on AMR.
 

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30 per call despite the call being paid by the patient's insurance? or other payor source? It would seem that a company operating like this would have to have a solid base of customers with good payor sources. What if the call was a dry run but the crew made it on scene? 30 for BLS, ALS, and CCT?

It's not as hard as you might think. They are contracted with multiple brokers, if you have big enough of the area, you can get loaded with calls if you are willing to take any and all calls, especially being companies been closing slowly but surely. It will be interesting to know if they consider running a call when you get assigned(even if call is say 45 drive time) or when you arrive on scene of the call and load the patient. Basically they are playing with words as paying emt 72ka year is impossible. Even AMR couldn't afford that (okay they could but their shareholders would get the board to fire their management for such stupidity).
 

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See above your post. Currently they have 2 rigs in the "new" companys name at the Impulse station but are not certified dot or county and from what I heard its all smoke and mirrors that coming from a current employee of that organization. The epcr requirement is a county requirement and all companies need to be electronic by the end of the year so this is not just by choice. I heard they want to turn this into a "uber" type deal for ambulances?

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You need to know a bit about county vehicle age limit to understand why they have 2 new units. So they have 2006 year, 2008 and 2008 unit. 2006 unit likely received 2 year age limit extension and soon that limit will expired. Meaning they will have no choice to replace it. They might also be considering replacing one of the 2008 unit as well if it's in bad condition that it will not get 2 year extension from the county. So no they not likely to be getting all new rigs .
 

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See above your post. Currently they have 2 rigs in the "new" companys name at the Impulse station but are not certified dot or county and from what I heard its all smoke and mirrors that coming from a current employee of that organization. The epcr requirement is a county requirement and all companies need to be electronic by the end of the year so this is not just by choice. I heard they want to turn this into a "uber" type deal for ambulances?

Once again, your statement is full of untruths. I won't comment on what the situation is, (not my place, considering I am involved in it) other than tell you when you are COMPLETELY OFF by a mile. Which you are.
 

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The epcr requirement is a county requirement and all companies need to be electronic by the end of the year so this is not just by choice

Which county meetings are you going to? That is NOT the case. It is something they are looking for, but they don't have the ability to make everyone invest the type of money it takes to implement an EPCR solution, to make it happen by end of this year.
 

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Once again, your statement is full of untruths. I won't comment on what the situation is, (not my place, considering I am involved in it) other than tell you when you are COMPLETELY OFF by a mile. Which you are.
LOL word of mouth from an employee over there. Maybe I can get some pictures to prove it. I really don't mind. Good luck taking out a company with almost 80% of the country under its belt and the FEMA contract.

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Regarding $30 a call, that might actually drop you below minimum wage(which would be illegal).

If you read the statement, it's the HIGHER of the two, $30 per call or hourly wage. If the crew does less calls, the higher of the two will always give them at LEAST their hourly wage. And they have a way to track OT and all that other stuff. Don't make assumptions you are smarter than people who run companies. Is it possible these people know what they are doing??
 

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LOL word of mouth from an employee over there. Maybe I can get some pictures to prove it. I really don't mind. Good luck taking out a company with almost 80% of the country under its belt and the FEMA contract.

So, some EMT tells you ******** he's heard from other EMTs and you take it as gospel?
 
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