London Ambulance Service recruiting 250 medics from overseas

Scott33

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What is so great about Australia vs NZ, Canada ?

Certain parts of Australia will probably mirror the UK EMS model more than the other countries you mention. Probably less of a hassle to transfer credentials.
 

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Looks very similar to New Zealand in many ways.

I think the cost of living in London is much higher?

I had a look at JRCALC and it looks like ICPs in NZ can do more than a Paramedic in the UK?

There was no mention of ...

- Adenosine
- Cardioversion
- Pacing
- Ketamine
- Rapid sequence intubation
- Routine post intubation sedation and paralysis
- Sedation/procedural anaesthesia
- Prednisone
- Loratadine
- Clopidogrel
- Tramadol (although it did mention oramorph so near enough ... if not better!)
 

ukparamedic

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There is a new role in LAS called Advanced Paramedic Practitioner.

They carry Ketamine amongst some other advanced drugs, and I believe they're able to RSI if required. They also have ultrasound scanners for looking at the heart for things like tamponade and signs of occlusion etc... They have a lot of other training too and equipment but I can't think of it from the top of my head.

They're dispatched usually either by crew request, or by another APP in the control room who monitors incoming jobs for anything they might be of use for. They've only been around for a couple of months but generally they will attend most cardiac arrests without the crew asking for it, if they're available.

Tramadol has recently become a Schedule 3 designated drug from 10th June 2014 in the UK, but then again as you said we have Oramorph and the need for tramadol isn't really that great...

We use Aspirin instead of Clopidogrel

Not allowed to do external pacing and cardioversion as of yet, although again I believe the APP's can pace (???)

We have Amiodarone, no Adenosine.

We have Dexamethasone, no Prednisolone.

We also have IV Paracetamol for analgesia in addition to Morphine, and Tranexamic Acid for Catastrophic Haemorrhage. These are relatively new for LAS.

I believe our HR/Recruitment is travelling to Aus in September to begin the process.
 

ukparamedic

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Not to mention the additional 4 or 5 grand for your C1 / D1 license. Mandatory for working for the NHS.

It is not 4 or 5 grand as you put it, I gained all my C1 training and the test itself for £800...
 

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Also anybody considering applying for this post, I suggest PM'ing to ask some questions.
 
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Scott33

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It is not 4 or 5 grand as you put it, I gained all my C1 training and the test itself for £800...

I believe I already addressed this earlier.

Bear in mind though that someone who holds a US driving license (of any class) cannot exchange it for a UK one. Therefore, they will have the additional costs of theory & practical tuition / exams for their ordinary car license.
 

ukparamedic

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I just tried to PM you, said you couldn't accept messages.
Have you got a Skype or an email address you wouldn't mind putting up so I can add you ?
 

ukparamedic

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Actually I've changed my preferences so I should be able to receive messages nownow
 

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Does it not worry any of you that they are recruiting abroad? LAS has such a high turnover of staff because paramedics are being overworked and feel undervalued. Yes LAS is the busiest ambulance service in the world, but I would not say the best in the United Kingdom. There are many other trusts who out-perform LAS and have more autonomous Paramedics. EAST work around the outskirts of London and often get called into London jobs and you can expect better management. Personally I would think twice before applying to LAS, and I can't see why someone with a great lifestyle and very good weather in Oz would come to London and pay through the roof for accommodation and not be beside the sea.
 

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The issue is people leaving the national health service to work as private paramedics...all the students who have shiny new degrees put in their time at college...then as soon as they can go private they are off...and i dont blame them...turning up to calls with a private service where they are on 3 times the pay for doing the same job....
 

Scott33

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I think that may be the exception rather than the rule. Whereas it may be true there are numerous PAS providers, I would hesitate to say that they typically pay 3 times the NHS salary. Not to mention they won't offer the pretty lucrative pension, holiday allowance, 6 months sick pay etc. it also has to be said that few PAS providers are doing true frontline 999 emergency work, so the paras who have jumped ship may have to be content with dialysis runs, discharges, and doctors urgents. All that crap - minus the benefits - and they still have the same HCPC to satisfy. It has to be said however, that most PAS staff will not be paras, with FPOS being the industry standard.

As it would appear, many staff are leaving the LAS, but I think it's more commonly going to be a case of moving trust and staying working the NHS. There is also a huge interest in working abroad.
 
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