All town ambulance likely to be denied la county license

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Not sure if we got any members here that work for small company called all town ambulance but if we do I suggest you start looking for new job.

Here is link to la county report on them and I must say this is thrully the first company that I am 100% sure will not survive this process http://file.lacounty.gov/dhs/cms1_216630.pdf
 

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Yikes. Read it just to see what it looked like, and that company has bad news written all over it. Page 11 seems to be the kicker, but the mention of out-of-license pickups in the dispatch logs is the knockout.

So what does this mean for them? Are they trying to renew in LA County, or trying to add them as a place to work in?
 

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pathetic application! They have experience running an auto body shop and figure they can manage an ambulance company? Most of them are related to Translife to! Interesting.
 
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Yikes. Read it just to see what it looked like, and that company has bad news written all over it. Page 11 seems to be the kicker, but the mention of out-of-license pickups in the dispatch logs is the knockout.

So what does this mean for them? Are they trying to renew in LA County, or trying to add them as a place to work in?
Illegal pick up is not actuality big deal, most of companies that been approved had it. What is big deal is the background check, their vp and managers apparently all got criminal records which sheriff department feel is not acceptable to give them County license. That to me is what going to kill them
 
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Sorry forgot to answer your second question. LA County in 2011 required all companies that were operating in the county at the time to apply for license. While the license was pending they could continue working being till that period it wasn't required to have county license to work in incorporated cities. Basically if license gets denied, they can't operate in la county.
 

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Who thinks up these screwy names? Also, the co owner used to work at F&B Medical Transportation. It blew my mind when I saw them at Kaiser Anaheim one night. You can't be a SoCal ambulance company, call yourself F&B, and use their same design. Someone either has a wicked sense of humor or really loved Mother Jugs and Speed. Albeit, at times, I feel like I work at F&B. It's not a company I would ever model myself after.
 

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Let them run all the dialysis they want bro. If everyone else with a criminal background with a relationship to an ambulance company can run it would make no difference. They can just place a puppet in and once its all a done deal they can slip back into power. Or they can keep being puppet master and just show up once a week to see how "operations" are going.lol. saw this at a small company in Glendale that had a huge fight with all the ems boards. They simply moved people around and when it was said and done they all came back in their Mercedes smoking marlboro 100's lol. God Bless America.
 
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Who thinks up these screwy names? Also, the co owner used to work at F&B Medical Transportation. It blew my mind when I saw them at Kaiser Anaheim one night. You can't be a SoCal ambulance company, call yourself F&B, and use their same design. Someone either has a wicked sense of humor or really loved Mother Jugs and Speed. Albeit, at times, I feel like I work at F&B. It's not a company I would ever model myself after.

Just to clarify so no is confused, f & b transportation and all town ambulance are located in the same building and are owned by same people. Also f & b is nambulancgurne but instead does mainly gurney transportation but is licensed and equipped to do wheelchair transportation as well.
 

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So does every LA county application have this much red on it or is this company just the shadiest one of them all. Almost every single category was failed...
 
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So does every LA county application have this much red on it or is this company just the shadiest one of them all. Almost every single category was failed...

This is not is the worse i personally ever seen. Being this close to hearing, most have few red marks but that is about it. Another thing I notice is the county ems haven't even done "surprised inspection of property", now it's possible county just didn't update that PDF file to reflect it but i still don't know how they are going to get around protest from sheriff department about the vp . You can replace the managers, get those with plenty of experience but when vp is likely part of ownership, that is much harder proposition. Out all of the companies i seriously don't think all town ambulance will make either with ems board(for sure) or even with appeal officer which is how many companies got their license. Basically this one is likely going to gone unless some miracle going to happen in the few weeks/months.
 
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There will be a donut box filled with cash at the next hearing.lol
Considering EMS board is still looking for their first company denial that will be uphold by appeal officer, that is unlikely to work. Alpha ambulance don't count as they never appealed plus they were raided by FBI.
 
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Was anyone at the board hearing today? Can you please post what if any decision were made?
 

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All Town was permitted to submit last minute information at the hearing indicating that ownership changes were made, along with other responses to the EMS Agency's summary. They were represented by 2 attorneys as well. The EMS Agency staff and counsel appeared to be poorly prepared and disorganized, while All Town was prepared. The Agency was unable to clearly respond to questions from the Hearing Board, who appeared to be frustrated with the Agency.

At the end of the day, the EMS Agency was directed to meet with the staff of All Town and to review and process their 11th hour submission within 90 days. Their hearing has been continued, most likely until November or January 2015.

Should have been a slam dunk for the Agency. Too bad.
 
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All Town was permitted to submit last minute information at the hearing indicating that ownership changes were made, along with other responses to the EMS Agency's summary. They were represented by 2 attorneys as well. The EMS Agency staff and counsel appeared to be poorly prepared and disorganized, while All Town was prepared. The Agency was unable to clearly respond to questions from the Hearing Board, who appeared to be frustrated with the Agency.

At the end of the day, the EMS Agency was directed to meet with the staff of All Town and to review and process their 11th hour submission within 90 days. Their hearing has been continued, most likely until November or January 2015.

Should have been a slam dunk for the Agency. Too bad.
Wow, just wow. If all town ambulance is ultimately approved then county might as well abandon their plan to require everyone to be licensed as it's just technicality with nothing behind it.
 

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Keep in mind that although LA County EMS may appear to approve and subsequently license sub-standard ambulance services, along with that licensurer comes the blanket acceptance by each company to allow the County to audit any part of their operation at any time without cause or warning. For all B-grade companies, this will either force them to be compliant, or weed them out. Believe it or not, it is much easier to lose a current EMS licensure than it is to be withheld from attempting to obtain one.

Due partially to political reasons, and the outcry from small ambulance service owners regarding equality and fairness, EMS has changed their tune somewhat and is now appearing to be becoming somewhat more supportive of these small companies fighting to obtain licensing and compete with the 'big boys'. In some cases these companies are 'doing it right' or trying to, in others, there are connections to illegal activities and organized crime, or they are just poorly run by management with little experience. I believe that the County has found a way to infiltrate and weed out these low-end services by allowing them an initial license. It's just a matter of time.
 

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Who thinks up these screwy names?

Here in Los Angeles, we used to have several ambulance companies with really stupid or poorly thought-out names.

Anyone remember “Professional Ambulance Service”? What a great name. A lot better “Amateur Ambulance”. We used to have “Doctors Ambulance” (I think they’re still in business?), as if their rigs were staffed by MDs. Well, that’s their NAME, isn’t it?

We have one, now, called “PRN Ambulance” and another called “Priority 1 Ambulance”.

But the all-time great stupid name for an ambulance company? And this was a real one, as anyone from the Los Angeles area will tell you — this was back in the late 70s/early 80s — called… are you ready for this? … “AIDS Ambulance Service”. Yes, that’s true. Problem was, for them, after we had the first AIDS patients here in LA, these folks had to change their name, and quickly. The new name? “AME”, for “Aids Medical Enterprises”.

Here’s an article from the LA Times about that.
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-11-14/local/me-2370_1_aids-victims
 
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