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DragonClaw

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@Jim37F

You do bunker coat stuff.

How can a fly go on the wrong side of a truck or be facing the wrong way, what's that in reference to?
 

Jim37F

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Flys... that wouldn't be in reference to a ladder by chance? Because on our engines with the ladder racks the extension ladder only fits if the fly section is facing the right way (i.e. in or out) and is different on some engines than others... thats the only thing that pops into my head about "fly facing the right way" at least without any more context...
 

DragonClaw

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Flys... that wouldn't be in reference to a ladder by chance? Because on our engines with the ladder racks the extension ladder only fits if the fly section is facing the right way (i.e. in or out) and is different on some engines than others... thats the only thing that pops into my head about "fly facing the right way" at least without any more context...

I think so. They said it was an auto fail. Whatever they did.

Edit. Here's the quote "Partner and I foolishly threw our ladder with the fly on the wrong side. Didn’t notice it and threw it again. Double fail"
 
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StCEMT

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Mmmm. Better than the regretful kind of call. Sounds like problem solver mode went full bore with you at the helm. Good job.
Yea its just frustrating because it never should have happened. I have no doubt the family is gonna get exposed and sick considering most of them didn't have proper PPE at all and there were a lot of them.
 

DragonClaw

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Yea its just frustrating because it never should have happened. I have no doubt the family is gonna get exposed and sick considering most of them didn't have proper PPE at all and there were a lot of them.

Oh we had a guy. So we walk until this old burn unit. We had to get badged into the ward and then pick up a phone to get buzzed into the next set of doors. It's got a weird vibe to it and I asked if this is an oncology ward. They looked shocked. They're all wearing more PPE than me and things are set up to be more sterile and handsfree. Our guy had stage 4 cancer and was going home on hospice.

"Oh no" the nuse exclaimed, "This is the Corona ward".

We go get PPE on and wonder who the messup was on. We were told no iso. We'd never been to this ward before.

He just tested positive and few hours before and was suspected covid.

When we get to the house nobody is wearing any PPE or anything. We tell them he's got the Rona and they shrug it off. They said it's a different virus.

Can't really do anything about them.
 

CALEMT

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Ah. That settles it. If I ever go in the drink, that's it. Don't look for me. Don't waste taxpayer money.

Most of our swift water calls are body recoveries.
 

CALEMT

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I think so. They said it was an auto fail. Whatever they did.

Edit. Here's the quote "Partner and I foolishly threw our ladder with the fly on the wrong side. Didn’t notice it and threw it again. Double fail"

Depends if you’re throwing the ladder for rescues or not. Fly out is easier to take victims down the ladder.
 

DragonClaw

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Most of our swift water calls are body recoveries.
I'm actually not joking. I think it would be a legitimate waste of resources. Swimming exhausts me. I don't know why but I'm just not very good at even treading water. Growing up, siblings would jump on my bed screaming they're drowning. Had a few times I legit thought I was going to down. When they grab your ankles from underneath and you can't break free. When they're pushing your head down when you're trying to get air. Or when you get thrown into a freezing (not literally. But very cold) body of water like the lake or pool or ocean and you can't swim.

Just legit don't bother. I'll come back like I always do until I don't.

Edit. I guess I know exactly why. But still. I'm afraid to go in the water with anyone who might think it's funny to do these things. I think they won't take me seriously.
 

VFlutter

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So last week the Atlanta DA stated a tazer is a "potentially deadly weapon" when police used it against a college kid resisting arrest but now in the case of Rayshard Brooks it is not considered a deadly threat, when used during violent resistance, and has charged the officer with murder. This country is beyond hope.
 

Aprz

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I woud never shave my head bald.
 

Jim37F

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I think so. They said it was an auto fail. Whatever they did.

Edit. Here's the quote "Partner and I foolishly threw our ladder with the fly on the wrong side. Didn’t notice it and threw it again. Double fail"
Ah, some ladders are designed so you place the fly section "in" (towards) the building and others the fly is on the outside of the bed section. They briefly glossed over in my Recruit class, something to do with the different ways it sits has different stresses, if a ladder designed to be fly out is placed fly in (or vice versa) there's a (minute) chance the stresses cause the ladder to collapse.

They basically told us the rule of thumb is wooden ladders are always placed fly in towards the building and aluminum ladders fly out.

I'm sure it depends more on the specific manufacturer, make/model, etc. NFPA says every fire service ladder should have a label from the manufacturer specifying which way to place it (amongst other stuff).

They kinda just glossed over that because all the ground ladders in our department are aluminum and they're all "Fly Out" designs so for us its simply always fly out.

If you place it fly in on a drill or skills test, thats wrong, failure.
 

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Ah, some ladders are designed so you place the fly section "in" (towards) the building and others the fly is on the outside of the bed section. They briefly glossed over in my Recruit class, something to do with the different ways it sits has different stresses, if a ladder designed to be fly out is placed fly in (or vice versa) there's a (minute) chance the stresses cause the ladder to collapse.

They basically told us the rule of thumb is wooden ladders are always placed fly in towards the building and aluminum ladders fly out.

I'm sure it depends more on the specific manufacturer, make/model, etc. NFPA says every fire service ladder should have a label from the manufacturer specifying which way to place it (amongst other stuff).

They kinda just glossed over that because all the ground ladders in our department are aluminum and they're all "Fly Out" designs so for us its simply always fly out.

If you place it fly in on a drill or skills test, thats wrong, failure.
Interesting. Did you do a Basic FFA in Cali before you went out to HI? Our ladders and all depts in this area are fly in, unless for a rescue.
 

Jim37F

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Interesting. Did you do a Basic FFA in Cali before you went out to HI? Our ladders and all depts in this area are fly in, unless for a rescue.
Nope, never did any private academy before I got hired out here, tho I would have applied to one (or maybe Medic School) that summer if I hadn't passed the interview in Feb
 

DragonClaw

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I don't know how to take compliments. On the job or off

I hate fake ones that pander, placate, patronize or otherwise blow smoke. I feel weird knowing it's a lie and wanting to be tactful. Those are less common.

(On the job example) But when I've put big effort into trying to be a pt advocate or a good parrner or peer or even a good person. It's weird. Growing up it was "You shouldn't be rewarded, complimented, or recognized for doing what you should be doing already or simply not being bad" was prevalent. And I agree

But like when people take both your hands and really give a heartfelt thanks and genuinely thank you I'm just like 😅😅😅😅😅😅

"Uhhhhhhhhh"

And it seems ill fitting and not professional or respectful of their effort to try and share their feelings with me. (Same if they're mad but I can fix that)

I can't be like "Of course I've earned praise please give it to me" and I don't think that is true.

But I don't want to not seem ... grateful or genuine or like I don't care or something.

I just like the idea of someone realizing they meant something to someone. That there are people who help. Maybe someone they never see again but hopefully had a good impact on them.

And I wish they wouldn't try and remember me specifically or something. I like the idea of an anonymous helper or giver. Seems more special like that.

I don't like it when they try and tip me or try to somehow pay a debt that doesn't exist or make up for something that needs not making up for. The reward is the deed done right.

So what do y'all think? What's a good way to take compliments without being awkward.
 

ffemt8978

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I don't know how to take compliments. On the job or off

I hate fake ones that pander, placate, patronize or otherwise blow smoke. I feel weird knowing it's a lie and wanting to be tactful. Those are less common.

(On the job example) But when I've put big effort into trying to be a pt advocate or a good parrner or peer or even a good person. It's weird. Growing up it was "You shouldn't be rewarded, complimented, or recognized for doing what you should be doing already or simply not being bad" was prevalent. And I agree

But like when people take both your hands and really give a heartfelt thanks and genuinely thank you I'm just like 😅😅😅😅😅😅

"Uhhhhhhhhh"

And it seems ill fitting and not professional or respectful of their effort to try and share their feelings with me. (Same if they're mad but I can fix that)

I can't be like "Of course I've earned praise please give it to me" and I don't think that is true.

But I don't want to not seem ... grateful or genuine or like I don't care or something.

I just like the idea of someone realizing they meant something to someone. That there are people who help. Maybe someone they never see again but hopefully had a good impact on them.

And I wish they wouldn't try and remember me specifically or something. I like the idea of an anonymous helper or giver. Seems more special like that.

I don't like it when they try and tip me or try to somehow pay a debt that doesn't exist or make up for something that needs not making up for. The reward is the deed done right.

So what do y'all think? What's a good way to take compliments without being awkward.
That's an individual question that one can only answer for themselves. A lot of veterans have to deal with the same issue and everyone "thanking" them for their service. Some mean it sincerely, some merely say it because that is what is expected. In the end it doesn't really matter, IMO. I've learned to just accept them as more of an indication or need of the person giving them and respect that.

Personally, I'm not involved in anything where I feel I need another person's compliments. I know when I've done something worthwhile of a compliment. At the end of the day, the only person's opinion of my accomplishments that matter are my own. After all, my opinion of myself is the only one I have to live with and accept every hour of every day.
 

DesertMedic66

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Love having the severe scene calls where everything goes super smooth, everyone agrees on treatment plans, and your follow up at the hospital 12 hours later confirms your field diagnosis and treatment plan.
 

DragonClaw

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That's an individual question that one can only answer for themselves. A lot of veterans have to deal with the same issue and everyone "thanking" them for their service. Some mean it sincerely, some merely say it because that is what is expected. In the end it doesn't really matter, IMO. I've learned to just accept them as more of an indication or need of the person giving them and respect that.

Personally, I'm not involved in anything where I feel I need another person's compliments. I know when I've done something worthwhile of a compliment. At the end of the day, the only person's opinion of my accomplishments that matter are my own. After all, my opinion of myself is the only one I have to live with and accept every hour of every day.

I mean I agree. False praise means nothing and it is a little gratifying when someone feels like I listened to them and took good care of them, I won't lie. It's nice to know my efforts made a difference in this moment to them. But how to show that I am happy they're happy it's uhhhh . Yeah. Uhhhhhh
 

VFlutter

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4 tubes in a week. Trauma season is back in full swing
 
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